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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #440 on: April 08, 2018, 08:38:04 PM »
Doesn’t help when right after the Rabbi of the program gave a speech after mincha explaining to everyone what they can and cannot do depending on what time the food makes it to their villas the person in charge got up and gave contradictory advice trying to make everyone think they can have the non Jewish delivery people do anything they need for them. Overall the person running the program was Incredibly rude to all guests and employees followed him by treating everyone just as disgustingly. Of course after Shabbos pizza was supposed to be delivered to every villa as well and it never showed up. We were told that there was issues with delivery and they were at Walmart trying to find additional pizza because of course random Walmart’s in Orlando would have amnons pizza. The only redeeming factor of this program is the nice villas and pool area.
I wouldn't put the lack of pizza together with what happened on shabbos.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #441 on: April 08, 2018, 08:48:13 PM »
Orlando? That can't even be a cheap program. Oy.

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #442 on: April 09, 2018, 01:05:43 PM »
Doesn’t help when right after the Rabbi of the program gave a speech after mincha explaining to everyone what they can and cannot do depending on what time the food makes it to their villas the person in charge got up and gave contradictory advice trying to make everyone think they can have the non Jewish delivery people do anything they need for them. Overall the person running the program was Incredibly rude to all guests and employees followed him by treating everyone just as disgustingly. Of course after Shabbos pizza was supposed to be delivered to every villa as well and it never showed up. We were told that there was issues with delivery and they were at Walmart trying to find additional pizza because of course random Walmart’s in Orlando would have amnons pizza. The only redeeming factor of this program is the nice villas and pool area.

what program was this ? I thought we were discussing ny / nj one?

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #443 on: April 09, 2018, 01:29:59 PM »
what program was this ? I thought we were discussing ny / nj one?
A Different Pesach Program
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #444 on: April 10, 2018, 04:14:56 PM »
1) Reb Moishe never allowed his children to eat CS. Does that mean that he didn't allow it?

2) it could be that Rabbi Werner is makpid not to eat food from other ppl.
I know Rabbi Simcha Werner well.
He is a emese ehrliche yid and a BIG yirei shomayim. and indeed, he probably won't eat anything on pesach aside from matzos potatoes and wine (yes, no oil or potato starch etc.) So to say that he wouldn't eat it doesn't take away from the kashrus of the program.

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #445 on: April 10, 2018, 04:23:24 PM »
I know Rabbi Simcha Werner well.
He is a emese ehrliche yid and a BIG yirei shomayim. and indeed, he probably won't eat anything on pesach aside from matzos potatoes and wine (yes, no oil or potato starch etc.) So to say that he wouldn't eat it doesn't take away from the kashrus of the program.

I asked R Simcha Werner directly whether he eats at the programs, and he said that he doesn't eat anything out of the program kitchen, regardless of how good the Hashgocha might be.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #446 on: April 10, 2018, 04:25:37 PM »
I asked R Simcha Werner directly whether he eats at the programs, and he said that he doesn't eat anything out of the program kitchen, regardless of how good the Hashgocha might be.
On Pesach specifically or at any program?

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #447 on: April 10, 2018, 04:25:59 PM »
On Pesach specifically or at any program?
I asked about Pesach.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #448 on: April 10, 2018, 04:27:20 PM »

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #449 on: April 10, 2018, 04:39:25 PM »
I know Rabbi Simcha Werner well.
He is a emese ehrliche yid and a BIG yirei shomayim. and indeed, he probably won't eat anything on pesach aside from matzos potatoes and wine (yes, no oil or potato starch etc.) So to say that he wouldn't eat it doesn't take away from the kashrus of the program.
I asked R Simcha Werner directly whether he eats at the programs, and he said that he doesn't eat anything out of the program kitchen, regardless of how good the Hashgocha might be.
Exactly what I thought.

Thanks for confirming

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #451 on: April 11, 2018, 12:43:13 AM »
http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=50192&alias=royalty-pesach-was-a-disaster
That article is the disaster.

-Smilow closed just before Pesach? Wasn't that posted here well before Pesach? Nothing like the last minute cancellations of last year.

-Pesach programs are a mostly unregulated service. What does this mean? Who would regulate them? How are they only mostly unregulated?

-Where are the pictures and the evidence that was all over social media?

-Why is the only quoted non-anonymous guest opinion someone who worked there?

SMH.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #452 on: April 11, 2018, 12:53:08 AM »


That article is the disaster.

......

SMH.

I'm absolutely shocked. Apparently collive is not quite as professional and doesn't quite have the journalistic standards we thought they do.

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #453 on: April 11, 2018, 01:00:19 AM »

I'm absolutely shocked. Apparently collive is not quite as professional and doesn't quite have the journalistic standards we thought they do.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #454 on: April 11, 2018, 02:04:04 AM »

I'm absolutely shocked. Apparently collive is not quite as professional and doesn't quite have the journalistic standards we thought they do.
Yeah.

Reading through @Dan's post I was really scratching my head to try to figure out what he might have in his water that made him find a collive.com article worthy of critique.  ::)
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #455 on: April 11, 2018, 02:36:22 AM »
That's absolutely not fair to smilow. He was super responsible about it.

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #456 on: April 11, 2018, 06:59:45 AM »
If there was never enough food, how were they able to serve leftovers...

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #457 on: April 11, 2018, 08:19:32 AM »
If there was never enough food, how were they able to serve leftovers...
חסורי מחסרא והכי קתני:
There was never any EDIBLE food.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #458 on: April 11, 2018, 08:39:13 AM »

I'm absolutely shocked. Apparently collive is not quite as professional and doesn't quite have the journalistic standards we thought they do.
ROFL

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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #459 on: April 11, 2018, 09:29:38 AM »
Yeah.

Reading through @Dan's post I was really scratching my head to try to figure out what he might have in his water that made him find a collive.com article worthy of critique.  ::)
I don't read COL, but if it's posted here I'll give it a shot.
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