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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2018, 04:12:20 PM »
I agree. Our general community care very little about kashrus. This is just another proof. Ppl are satisfied with *any* rubber stamp etc. As long as it's ok with the neighbors.
Wow. CBC actually agreeing with EG! התגלות must be around the corner!  :) :D
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2018, 04:16:43 PM »
Wow. CBC actually agreeing with EG! התגלות must be around the corner!  :) :D
Yup, hisgalus this pesach iyh.

Gonna have to pick ppl up from 5 star resort's accross the world.


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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2018, 04:19:38 PM »
Why do people go to pesach programs to begin with?!?!
Some people have various reasons why they are unable to make Yom Tov for themselves.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2018, 04:20:37 PM »

Personally I'm worried about spoiling my kids, which is one of the reasons I'll be home again this year. But the draw is hardly a mystery.
Is that a long term decision due to their age?
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2018, 04:22:25 PM »
Some people have various reasons why they are unable to make Yom Tov for themselves.
Unable? I don't think that's the draw.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2018, 04:23:35 PM »
Is that a long term decision due to their age?
No. I just don't want it to be an every year occurrence.
I've worked at a program twice so far.
Lots of pros and cons in gashmius and ruchniyus.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2018, 04:28:38 PM »
Unable? I don't think that's the draw.
That depends on the program but absolutely. Many are full of seniors who can't handle it. There are also others that while not unable there are other reasons why going away makes a lot of sense. There are many on their second marriage where going away is the best way to avoid the question of whose children to go to. Many are families where both parents are professionals (especially accountants with pesach often being around Apr 15) where preparing for pesach would be extremely difficult. THere are other similar reasons.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2018, 04:31:23 PM »
That depends on the program but absolutely. Many are full of seniors who can't handle it. There are also others that while not unable there are other reasons why going away makes a lot of sense. There are many on their second marriage where going away is the best way to avoid the question of whose children to go to. Many are families where both parents are professionals (especially accountants with pesach often being around Apr 15) where preparing for pesach would be extremely difficult. THere are other similar reasons.
I wouldn't say those are the majority.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2018, 04:32:17 PM »

The pros in gashmiyus are the cons in ruchniyus and vice versa
Why would a pro in ruchniyus be a con in gashmiyus?
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2018, 04:34:02 PM »

That depends on the program but absolutely. Many are full of seniors who can't handle it. There are also others that while not unable there are other reasons why going away makes a lot of sense. There are many on their second marriage where going away is the best way to avoid the question of whose children to go to. Many are families where both parents are professionals (especially accountants with pesach often being around Apr 15) where preparing for pesach would be extremely difficult. THere are other similar reasons.
If only those were the only types of reasons that people go, these programs (and the ads) would look very different.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2018, 04:36:21 PM »
I wouldn't say those are the majority.
That very much depends on the program, but it is still the best answer to @chevron

Who ever said that the majority should be going?

If only those were the only types of reasons that people go, these programs (and the ads) would look very different.
Not every program looks the same.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2018, 04:41:47 PM »

Not every program looks the same.
I am sure they donít. But there seem to be some common denominators to those discussed on DDF.

FTR, some of the organizers are very ehrliche yidden, and try their best to provide the highest standards within the parameters of whatís expected by the participants. And even for those ehrliche people that run programs, the motivation for arranging them is money, and not a sincere concern for people that canít make their own Pesach.
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Re: Pesach Programs and False Advertising
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2018, 04:43:25 PM »
I am sure they donít. But there seem to be some common denominators to those discussed on DDF.

FTR, some of the organizers are very ehrliche yidden, and try their best to provide the highest standards within the parameters of whatís expected by the participants. And even for those ehrliche people that run programs, the motivation for arranging them is money, and not a sincere concern for people that canít make their own Pesach.

I've seen some of the better ones discussed here as well. Of course the reason they make it is for money. So what?
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