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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #640 on: April 10, 2023, 12:45:42 PM »
There are a number of reasons why I plan on never running a Pesach program, but this is #1.

I know firsthand the enormous challenges involved in keeping things at a high kashrus level on a regular program. On Pesach everything is a thousand times more complicated and quite frankly it terrifies me. I can have the best mashigichim and kashrus agencies but at the end of the day the buck stops with me, and that's just not something I'm willing to take responsibility for.

(I'm not casting aspersions on any program, I honestly have no first hand experience with any. Just sharing my personal rationale here.)
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #641 on: April 10, 2023, 12:52:02 PM »
It never ceases to amaze me how few people ask me about kashrus when they ask about my trips. Questions about the food are pretty ubiquitous, but questions about the kashrus? I'd say maybe 5-10% of guests ask, and even those are mostly very broad questions.

I can count on one hand people who've asked me serious questions about kashrus on my trips (and most of those are actually fairly active DDFers, so I guess we must be doing something right around here lol).

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #642 on: April 10, 2023, 01:06:53 PM »
There are a number of reasons why I plan on never running a Pesach program, but this is #1.

I know firsthand the enormous challenges involved in keeping things at a high kashrus level on a regular program. On Pesach everything is a thousand times more complicated and quite frankly it terrifies me. I can have the best mashigichim and kashrus agencies but at the end of the day the buck stops with me, and that's just not something I'm willing to take responsibility for.

(I'm not casting aspersions on any program, I honestly have no first hand experience with any. Just sharing my personal rationale here.)
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #643 on: April 10, 2023, 01:07:27 PM »
I can count on one hand people who've asked me serious questions about kashrus on my trips (and most of those are actually fairly active DDFers, so I guess we must be doing something right around here lol).
We follow RYBs's rules when it comes to kashrus. I have a gift delivery business here. The Rav said we have to get food sealed under hashgacha only, and we can't package our own stuff without a hashgacha on our house (and we don't have those kinds of margins).
Anyways, the number of people who call us are many, those who ask about hechsherim are few (maybe 10%), and those who want to know if we are actually under hashgacha? "Not just Badatz ingredients - does someone certify you?" Maybe two people, and we've been in business for 8 years or so.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #644 on: April 10, 2023, 01:09:34 PM »
I can count on one hand people who've asked me serious questions about kashrus on my trips (and most of those are actually fairly active DDFers, so I guess we must be doing something right around here lol).
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #645 on: April 10, 2023, 02:36:53 PM »
It never ceases to amaze me how few people ask me about kashrus when they ask about my trips. Questions about the food are pretty ubiquitous, but questions about the kashrus? I'd say maybe 5-10% of guests ask, and even those are mostly very broad questions.

I can count on one hand people who've asked me serious questions about kashrus on my trips (and most of those are actually fairly active DDFers, so I guess we must be doing something right around here lol).

Having grown up in house hearing kashrus questions every single day, I think the biggest "hechsher" people rely on is "what's done". So as long as people know of someone who went on one of your trips, it's kosher.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #646 on: April 10, 2023, 05:06:03 PM »
Having grown up in house hearing kashrus questions every single day, I think the biggest "hechsher" people rely on is "what's done". So as long as people know of someone who went on one of your trips, it's kosher.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #647 on: April 10, 2023, 05:34:38 PM »
My Pesach program has 100 percent kashrus success. I also get custom meals, made to order, and the chef is the best that exists. Really love it and would recommend, but they always fill up right away. Accommodations are great, so homey and familiar.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #648 on: April 10, 2023, 07:36:29 PM »
My Pesach program has 100 percent kashrus success. I also get custom meals, made to order, and the chef is the best that exists. Really love it and would recommend, but they always fill up right away. Accommodations are great, so homey and familiar.
+1. 5 star accomodations and food.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #649 on: April 10, 2023, 07:45:03 PM »
+1. 5 star accomodations and food.

Hosted 24 people for the first days. Still have 2 single brothers if you want to join in the future .
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #650 on: April 10, 2023, 07:52:25 PM »
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Meal is open, but full room and board program is an invitation affair  ;D
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #651 on: April 10, 2023, 07:59:45 PM »
My Pesach program has 100 percent kashrus success. I also get custom meals, made to order, and the chef is the best that exists. Really love it and would recommend, but they always fill up right away. Accommodations are great, so homey and familiar.

In my Pesach program we daven to have as close as possible to 100% Kashrus success.

There's a vort from the Frierdiker Rebbe's aunt (as a child) that Achron Shel Pesach is a celebration of the success in זהירות ממשהו חמץ the entire Pesach. (Interesting sicha about it here סעיף יח)

The food is all A++ and up to the highest Kashrus standards. With all natural ingredients, and nothing commercially produced (other than walnut oil introduced for specific reasons).

An abundance of fresh fruit (including delicious avocados), with smoothies every morning of Chol Hamoed.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #652 on: April 10, 2023, 08:00:23 PM »
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Sometimes physical space runs out. But shifts are available.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #653 on: April 10, 2023, 10:01:52 PM »
Sometimes physical space runs out. But shifts are available.
Shifts for sleeping?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #654 on: April 10, 2023, 10:17:28 PM »
Shifts for sleeping?

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #655 on: April 10, 2023, 10:34:51 PM »
Shifts for sleeping?

I was referring to physical space at the table (which is already 3 tables put together for a total of about 20ft.) But there have been shifts for sleeping on occasion. Especially on the couches.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #656 on: April 10, 2023, 11:42:43 PM »
My grandparents house was renowned for having a basement full of mattresses with "shifts" of people coming and going for a few minutes sleep (especially during Tishrei)

Though Crown Heights is a different animal

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #657 on: April 11, 2023, 12:03:41 AM »
Though Crown Heights is a different animal

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #658 on: April 11, 2023, 12:04:45 AM »
My grandparents house was renowned for having a basement full of mattresses with "shifts" of people coming and going for a few minutes sleep (especially during Tishrei)

Though Crown Heights is a different animal
(Were there long pipes next to the mattresses)

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #659 on: April 11, 2023, 12:07:42 AM »
(Were there long pipes next to the mattresses)

If anything there might have occasionally been vodka bottles around.
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