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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #660 on: April 11, 2023, 12:11:06 AM »
In my Pesach program we daven to have as close as possible to 100% Kashrus success.

There's a vort from the Frierdiker Rebbe's aunt (as a child) that Achron Shel Pesach is a celebration of the success in זהירות ממשהו חמץ the entire Pesach. (Interesting sicha about it here סעיף יח)

The food is all A++ and up to the highest Kashrus standards. With all natural ingredients, and nothing commercially produced (other than walnut oil introduced for specific reasons).

An abundance of fresh fruit (including delicious avocados), with smoothies every morning of Chol Hamoed.
what peasant program do you run?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #661 on: April 11, 2023, 12:15:47 AM »
what peasant program do you run?

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #662 on: April 11, 2023, 12:59:15 AM »
what peasant program do you run?

They're called farmers, not peasants.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #663 on: April 11, 2023, 01:01:49 AM »
They're called farmers, not peasants.

Perhaps they farm pheasant?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #664 on: April 11, 2023, 03:06:10 PM »
Having grown up in house hearing kashrus questions every single day, I think the biggest "hechsher" people rely on is "what's done". So as long as people know of someone who went on one of your trips, it's kosher.

There is a certain amount of 'democratization' to halacha that isn't well defined 

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #665 on: April 11, 2023, 07:01:20 PM »
+1. 5 star accomodations and food.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #669 on: April 17, 2023, 09:38:54 AM »
I think this now qualifies for the “don’t swipe recklessly” thread.

Don’t pay for any generic program, Pesach or other, without thoroughly vetting who is running the program.

It’s clear now that this was a complete fraud from the get-go.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #671 on: April 17, 2023, 10:41:32 AM »
I think this now qualifies for the “don’t swipe recklessly” thread.

Don’t pay for any generic program, Pesach or other, without thoroughly vetting who is running the program.

It’s clear now that this was a complete fraud from the get-go.
How many Pesach programs were not scams?

while i may agree with you that the victims were scammed in the most recent disaster, its hard to compare it to a gamble, which cc swipes are.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #672 on: April 17, 2023, 11:57:46 AM »
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #673 on: April 17, 2023, 12:14:16 PM »
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #674 on: April 17, 2023, 08:23:59 PM »
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #676 on: April 17, 2023, 09:58:24 PM »
TLDR?
That he has a pattern of past fraud/ponzi/fraud claims/non-payments/bankruptcy and they haven't been fully publicized because of L"H concerns, people not wanting to admit that they were scammed, and review sites that aren't publishing reviews for various reasons so people don't learn what happened. Based on what was presented, it seems very unlikely anyone will get their money back if they didn't use a credit card, but the best course of action may be a complaint to the NJ attorney general. Several people that were scammed or past guests came forward now based on seeing how people felt that he was being truthful in the last episode about his past programs.

He also flew to SA for a Pesach program, angering the people on this program. He claims an anonymous donor flew them there free and he stayed there for free.

None of that proves he didn't get scammed, but the onus to prove he did get scammed and for how much is certainly back on him.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #677 on: April 17, 2023, 10:04:03 PM »
the best course of action may be a complaint to the NJ attorney general
AYLOR before doing that.

If it's not allowed, it can be full-fledged mesirah. I'm not an expert, but for sure don't do that unless a competent halachic authority gives you the go ahead.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #678 on: April 17, 2023, 10:05:06 PM »
AYLOR before doing that.

If it's not allowed, it can be full-fledged mesirah. I'm not an expert, but for sure don't do that unless a competent halachic authority gives you the go ahead.
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I'm not advising anything. That's just a recap of what was said on the show by various people, including past investors, venders, guests, etc. who are now coming forward.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #679 on: April 18, 2023, 02:40:56 AM »
Hey @Dan,
maybe take down this page?
https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/last-50-rooms-36-hour-blowout-pesach-sale/
The only thing true about it is the blowout part...