Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread

[shmoe joe]

In my Pesach program we daven to have as close as possible to 100% Kashrus success.

There's a vort from the Frierdiker Rebbe's aunt (as a child) that Achron Shel Pesach is a celebration of the success in זהירות ממשהו חמץ the entire Pesach. (Interesting sicha about it here סעיף יח)

The food is all A++ and up to the highest Kashrus standards. With all natural ingredients, and nothing commercially produced (other than walnut oil introduced for specific reasons).

An abundance of fresh fruit (including delicious avocados), with smoothies every morning of Chol Hamoed.

what peasant program do you run?

[ExGingi]

what peasant program do you run?

Heart of Crown Heights Grand Central Station open house.

[Lurker]

what peasant program do you run?

They're called farmers, not peasants.

[AsherO]

They're called farmers, not peasants.

Perhaps they farm pheasant?

[incendia]

Having grown up in house hearing kashrus questions every single day, I think the biggest "hechsher" people rely on is "what's done". So as long as people know of someone who went on one of your trips, it's kosher.

There is a certain amount of 'democratization' to halacha that isn't well defined 

[YitzyS]

+1. 5 star accomodations and food.

Hosted 24 people for the first days. Still have 2 single brothers if you want to join in the future 🤣.

Don't forget about the special Scholar in Residence

[YitzyS]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/general/2180916/stamford-connecticut-more-than-dozen-vehicles-burn-at-pesach-program-1000-guests-evacuated-from-hotel.html

[coffeebean]

https://s3.radio.co/s99394000b/listen

[VacationLover]

https://jewishpodcasts.fm/talklinewithzevbrenner/54383

[zale]

I think this now qualifies for the “don’t swipe recklessly” thread.

Don’t pay for any generic program, Pesach or other, without thoroughly vetting who is running the program.

It’s clear now that this was a complete fraud from the get-go.

[gubevo18]

https://jewishpodcasts.fm/talklinewithzevbrenner/54383

TLDR?

[Moshe Green]

I think this now qualifies for the “don’t swipe recklessly” thread.

Don’t pay for any generic program, Pesach or other, without thoroughly vetting who is running the program.

It’s clear now that this was a complete fraud from the get-go.

How many Pesach programs were not scams?

while i may agree with you that the victims were scammed in the most recent disaster, its hard to compare it to a gamble, which cc swipes are.

[VacationLover]

הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות

[Moshe Green]

הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות

אל תהיה טיפש

[Definitions]

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this is the version I've heard of. It rolls better.

הוי דן את כל האדם לכף זכות

ולא לכף שטות

[Dan]

https://jewishpodcasts.fm/talklinewithzevbrenner/54383

[Dan]

TLDR?

That he has a pattern of past fraud/ponzi/fraud claims/non-payments/bankruptcy and they haven't been fully publicized because of L"H concerns, people not wanting to admit that they were scammed, and review sites that aren't publishing reviews for various reasons so people don't learn what happened. Based on what was presented, it seems very unlikely anyone will get their money back if they didn't use a credit card, but the best course of action may be a complaint to the NJ attorney general. Several people that were scammed or past guests came forward now based on seeing how people felt that he was being truthful in the last episode about his past programs.

He also flew to SA for a Pesach program, angering the people on this program. He claims an anonymous donor flew them there free and he stayed there for free.

None of that proves he didn't get scammed, but the onus to prove he did get scammed and for how much is certainly back on him.

[YitzyS]

the best course of action may be a complaint to the NJ attorney general

AYLOR before doing that.

If it's not allowed, it can be full-fledged mesirah. I'm not an expert, but for sure don't do that unless a competent halachic authority gives you the go ahead.

[Dan]

AYLOR before doing that.

If it's not allowed, it can be full-fledged mesirah. I'm not an expert, but for sure don't do that unless a competent halachic authority gives you the go ahead.

100%.
I'm not advising anything. That's just a recap of what was said on the show by various people, including past investors, venders, guests, etc. who are now coming forward.

[Moshe Green]

Hey @Dan,
maybe take down this page?
https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/last-50-rooms-36-hour-blowout-pesach-sale/
The only thing true about it is the blowout part...