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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1040 on: April 25, 2023, 12:22:41 AM »
Ok next PSA: DON'T FLY with a large family and a 40 minute connection, even in Houston...
Not that this had anything to do with their plight - this time.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1041 on: April 25, 2023, 06:59:38 AM »
Not that this had anything to do with their plight - this time.
Sure it did. That’s why they got stuck in IAH (and with almost no time to “get ready”).

If there was a nonstop flight:
-If there would’ve / could’ve only been an issue with their second flight, there would’ve been no second flight. So they would’ve made it to PVR.
-If there would’ve / could’ve only been an issue with their first flight, they would’ve been “stuck” comfortably at home (with all day to prep).

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1042 on: April 25, 2023, 08:26:18 AM »
Sure it did. That’s why they got stuck in IAH (and with almost no time to “get ready”).

If there was a nonstop flight:
-If there would’ve / could’ve only been an issue with their second flight, there would’ve been no second flight. So they would’ve made it to PVR.
-If there would’ve / could’ve only been an issue with their first flight, they would’ve been “stuck” comfortably at home (with all day to prep).
I was comparing a 40-minute layover to, say, a 3-hr layover, and not to a non-stop flight. It may even be that where they were flying from, there is no non-stop flight.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1043 on: April 26, 2023, 08:14:18 AM »
Goooood morning, it's polygraph test day!

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1044 on: April 26, 2023, 08:20:42 AM »
Goooood morning, it's polygraph test day!
They should've polygraphed him when they asked him if he'd show up.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1045 on: April 26, 2023, 08:37:57 AM »
Goooood morning, it's polygraph test day!
We all know that he's a liar. Now we are discussing flying to Pesach hotels 2 hours before Pesach starts.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1046 on: April 26, 2023, 09:27:55 AM »
Just trying to understand what is going on, is the current belief that HG deliberately advertised the program in order to defraud his customers or that he had some sort of unforseen catastrophe that he was ashamed to be known for and decided to pull up a story about a scammer?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1047 on: April 26, 2023, 09:29:15 AM »
We all know that he's a liar. Now we are discussing flying to Pesach hotels 2 hours before Pesach starts.

Would you bet your life on it that he’s a liar ?
That’s what we all have to ask ourselves.
He’s looks very guilty from the facts of what happened.
But what happened if he was innocent ?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1048 on: April 26, 2023, 09:33:01 AM »
Just trying to understand what is going on, is the current belief that HG deliberately advertised the program in order to defraud his customers or that he had some sort of unforseen catastrophe that he was ashamed to be known for and decided to pull up a story about a scammer?

Or that he was irresponsible and despite his hopes that it would work out in the end it fell apart and he blamed the already unraveling program on this supposed incident.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1049 on: April 26, 2023, 09:36:46 AM »
Just trying to understand what is going on, is the current belief that HG deliberately advertised the program in order to defraud his customers or that he had some sort of unforseen catastrophe that he was ashamed to be known for and decided to pull up a story about a scammer?
I don't believe he was lying about the scammer.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1051 on: April 26, 2023, 09:48:21 AM »
I don't believe he was lying about the scammer.

The whole thing is controversial
Was the scam only 25k? Wouldn’t the program have brought in 1+mil from paying guests, hotel cost only a few hundred thousand, where’s the rest of the money ?

That being said we can’t say 100% sure what happened yet.
He looks guilty, but would u get ur life on it ?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1052 on: April 26, 2023, 11:12:33 AM »
The whole thing is controversial
Was the scam only 25k? Wouldn’t the program have brought in 1+mil from paying guests, hotel cost only a few hundred thousand, where’s the rest of the money ?

That being said we can’t say 100% sure what happened yet.
He looks guilty, but would u bet ur life on it ?
There's no bets going on.
A guy takes millions from people, he claims he was scammed (for 25,000), he then says he owes nothing to nobody and he's not trying to get the money back for the costumers.
He admitted that he's a thief.
There's no Loshon Hara because everybody heard from the man himself that he stole everyone money.

NEXT UP.
Should you take a flight that's landing 2 hours before Pesach? Oh, and it has a stopover.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1053 on: April 26, 2023, 11:29:52 AM »
There's no bets going on.
A guy takes millions from people, he claims he was scammed (for 25,000), he then says he owes nothing to nobody and he's not trying to get the money back for the costumers.
He admitted that he's a thief.
There's no Loshon Hara because everybody heard from the man himself that he stole everyone money.

NEXT UP.
Should you take a flight that's landing 2 hours before Pesach? Oh, and it has a stopover.

I didn’t hear him say that he was only scammed for 25k
Was that from a different interview that wasn’t on the ZB show ?
Also I didn’t hear him say that he was a thief
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1054 on: April 26, 2023, 11:30:48 AM »
There's no bets going on.
A guy takes millions from people, he claims he was scammed (for 25,000), he then says he owes nothing to nobody and he's not trying to get the money back for the costumers.
He admitted that he's a thief.
There's no Loshon Hara because everybody heard from the man himself that he stole everyone money.

NEXT UP.
Should you take a flight that's landing 2 hours before Pesach? Oh, and it has a stopover.

Also didn’t he say he’s going to return the money if people don’t have insurance ?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1055 on: April 26, 2023, 11:49:54 AM »
I didn’t hear him say that he was only scammed for 25k
That was the screenshot he showed.

Also I didn’t hear him say that he was a thief
He said in the first interview that people should read the fine print which says that if the program doesn't happen he doesn't return the money.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1056 on: April 26, 2023, 11:54:37 AM »
Anybody who listened through the very painfull 3rd interview knows by now that the guy is unfortunately not playing with a full deck of cards .In all likelihood nobody will see a cent back unless through a fundraising drive to help the victims.The only question is ,is there any toeles  now in being rodeph this nebach sociopath.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1057 on: April 26, 2023, 12:02:24 PM »
That was the screenshot he showed.
He said in the first interview that people should read the fine print which says that if the program doesn't happen he doesn't return the money.

What time during the first interview did he say about the fine print and not returning the money ?
I didn’t hear that
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1058 on: April 26, 2023, 12:04:28 PM »
Anybody who listened through the very painfull 3rd interview knows by now that the guy is unfortunately not playing with a full deck of cards .In all likelihood nobody will see a cent back unless through a fundraising drive to help the victims.The only question is ,is there any toeles  now in being rodeph this nebach sociopath.

In all likelihood is different then saying for sure
So can you say 100% he is a ganiv ?
He looks very guilty, but what happens if he’s innocent ?

Wasn’t Dan going to show his results from the mystery
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1059 on: April 26, 2023, 12:05:34 PM »
The way I understood it he was saying that those who had insurance will not get a penny back from him since they were already reimbursed.
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