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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1280 on: May 24, 2023, 09:06:09 PM »
He cancelled Wednesday night
And he knew Wednesday morning
"Your reaction-decision time will be set at 35 seconds"

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1281 on: May 24, 2023, 09:11:31 PM »
"Your reaction-decision time will be set at 35 seconds"

What does that mean
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1282 on: May 24, 2023, 09:12:48 PM »
What was the discount ? What was he going to charge
I do not remember all the numbers. There were a lot of variables, how many people, is everyone staying for the whole yt etc...

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1283 on: May 24, 2023, 09:13:07 PM »
What does that mean
It's a reference to somewhere else (free like if you know where), and my point was that even after someone realizes that there is a problem, it takes some time until they formulate a manner to respond to the problem and take action.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1284 on: May 24, 2023, 09:26:28 PM »
I do not remember all the numbers. There were a lot of variables, how many people, is everyone staying for the whole yt etc...

I thought all places give discounts last second if they have any rooms available
Even if it’s a small #
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1285 on: May 24, 2023, 09:27:07 PM »
It's a reference to somewhere else (free like if you know where), and my point was that even after someone realizes that there is a problem, it takes some time until they formulate a manner to respond to the problem and take action.

Correct
Wednesday morning to Wednesday evening
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1286 on: May 24, 2023, 10:32:51 PM »
It takes a few minutes to maybe an hour after realizing you were scammed to put everything on hold. If you’re still soliciting new business you are a scammer.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1287 on: May 24, 2023, 10:33:04 PM »
"Your reaction-decision time will be set at 35 seconds"
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1288 on: May 24, 2023, 10:33:20 PM »
I can tell you, my friends and I spoke to the program the day before the announcement was made that they cancelled and they told us they would give us a discount if we paid asap.
This is nothing new. He always operated like this.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1289 on: May 24, 2023, 10:37:06 PM »
It takes a few minutes to maybe an hour after realizing you were scammed to put everything on hold. If you’re still soliciting new business you are a scammer.
It's quite apparent that if he was scammed it was a relatively small amount. If that loss of cashflow was really what caused it to collapse, another large payment would've gotten him back on track.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1290 on: May 25, 2023, 06:29:44 AM »
It's quite apparent that if he was scammed it was a relatively small amount. If that loss of cashflow was really what caused it to collapse, another large payment would've gotten him back on track.

So then he might be innocent ?
So many maybes and nobody can give a 100% confirmation on anything
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1291 on: May 25, 2023, 07:29:18 AM »
So then he might be innocent ?
So many maybes and nobody can give a 100% confirmation on anything
No, people paid him for something, he didn't provide the service, and he hasn't refunded the money. That's called guilty!

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1292 on: May 25, 2023, 07:52:17 AM »
No, people paid him for something, he didn't provide the service, and he hasn't refunded the money. That's called guilty!

That means guilty of making bad business decisions. Doesn’t say he’s a straight out thief ?
He paid deposits (even to hotel and maybe to scammer ) so how should he pay back something he doesn’t have ?
Bottom line is nobody showed 100% evidence that he is guilty.
Anyway to contact his friend who sponsored his pesach in South Africa ?
Or to see when he bought those tickets ? Was it bought before or after program was cancelled ?
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1293 on: May 25, 2023, 07:55:12 AM »


. Doesn’t say he’s a straight out thief ?


The only one who went that route is you
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1294 on: May 25, 2023, 08:09:29 AM »

The only one who went that route is you

Wow
I guess you missed all the past posts
But maybe I read wrong.
But good to hear that people think he might be innocent
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1295 on: May 25, 2023, 08:13:24 AM »
Wow
I guess you missed all the past posts
But maybe I read wrong.
But good to hear that people think he might be innocent
I haven't seen even one person say that he never intended there t to be a program. He was irresponsible with other people's money and doesn't seem to care at all.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1296 on: May 25, 2023, 08:17:03 AM »
I haven't seen even one person say that he never intended there t to be a program. He was irresponsible with other people's money and doesn't seem to care at all.

Even the past page of this thread
Says how he tried collecting same day he knew program was cancelled
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1297 on: May 25, 2023, 08:19:47 AM »
Even the past page of this thread
Says how he tried collecting same day he knew program was cancelled
You are right. If the claim made here by a victim is true and he already knew it would be canceled then he is an outright thief. But that claim is being made by a victim.
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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1298 on: May 25, 2023, 08:40:41 AM »
Even the past page of this thread
Says how he tried collecting same day he knew program was cancelled
You are right. If the claim made here by a victim is true and he already knew it would be canceled then he is an outright thief. But that claim is being made by a victim.

If these are referring to my posts, I wrote that they (the program) tried collecting money the same day. Now if he did know that he was unable to make the program, than collecting that money would've been stealing. To which I gave the benefit of the doubt to the person my friend spoke to that same day

Went back to my whats app group. He called them March 29 2pm. Perhaps the person didnt know they were shutting down. Perhaps.

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Re: Pesach Program Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #1299 on: May 25, 2023, 08:54:40 AM »
That means guilty of making bad business decisions. Doesn’t say he’s a straight out thief ?
He paid deposits (even to hotel and maybe to scammer ) so how should he pay back something he doesn’t have ?
Bottom line is nobody showed 100% evidence that he is guilty.
Anyway to contact his friend who sponsored his pesach in South Africa ?
Or to see when he bought those tickets ? Was it bought before or after program was cancelled ?
He took money, didn't deliver and has ignored his customers for the last 8 weeks. That's called stealing.

What does South Africa have to do with this ::)