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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2018, 11:50:15 AM »
I forgot about that. No I haven't made or helped make any software. (Assuming you're asking on software)
Therefore...?
No. I mean *anything*. You said you wanted to ban ALL copyrights and patents.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2018, 11:53:13 AM »
No. I mean *anything*. You said you wanted to ban ALL copyrights and patents.
Nothing in particular that I can think of.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #42 on: February 01, 2018, 11:59:00 AM »
Nothing in particular that I can think of.
Try it one day. Write something original, take an interesting picture, paint something pretty, make a funny tweet - you get the idea, it can be anything.

Then, imagine someone came and ripped it off as their own and try think how you would feel about that.

I'm not even getting into the financial or monetizing aspect of things.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #43 on: February 01, 2018, 12:14:25 PM »
Try it one day. Write something original, take an interesting picture, paint something pretty, make a funny tweet - you get the idea, it can be anything.

Then, imagine someone came and ripped it off as their own and try think how you would feel about that.

I'm not even getting into the financial or monetizing aspect of things.
I totally agree. I thought of similar scenarios, I'm not trying to say that someone can't claim they are the original creators. In fact I want them to be able to do that because that pride is part of what drives people to help society by creating things.

I was thinking about the financial side of things.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #44 on: February 01, 2018, 12:18:27 PM »
I was thinking about the financial side of things.
Would you put your life & money into inventing something knowing that as soon as you’re successful at it somebody else will come along & rip it right off you ?
because that pride is part of what drives people to help society by creating things.
Its more money/career

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2018, 12:19:05 PM »


I totally agree. I thought of similar scenarios, I'm not trying to say that someone can't claim they are the original creators. In fact I want them to be able to do that because that pride is part of what drives people to help society by creating things.

I was thinking about the financial side of things.

And you believe, in all sincerity, that without financial gain as a motive we would be in exactly the same place we are today technologically, artistically, medically and everything elsely? Or is this just a giant troll because you thought I was serious about United's peacock policy?

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2018, 12:19:07 PM »
I totally agree. I thought of similar scenarios, I'm not trying to say that someone can't claim they are the original creators. In fact I want them to be able to do that because that pride is part of what drives people to help society by creating things.

I was thinking about the financial side of things.
If you think that the pride that comes from creating something is a more motivating factor than the money that comes from it, you need to get your head screwed back on straight.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2018, 12:22:52 PM »
Would you put your life & money into inventing something knowing that as soon as you’re successful at it somebody else will come along & rip it right off you ?Its more money/career
Kinda like the recent story with the woman that created the fidget spinner and forgot to renew the patent, she had for nearly a decade and did nothing with it, as soon as the patent expired and others were able to make it it became the biggest fad, I'm pretty sure people became rich off it (definitely not the original woman though).

P.S. Some of the above might not be 100% accurate, but the point still stands
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2018, 12:25:27 PM »
Would you put your life & money into inventing something knowing that as soon as you’re successful at it somebody else will come along & rip it right off you ?
Me personally? No I wouldn't put all my life and all my money. But I would put some.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2018, 12:27:03 PM »
Me personally? No I wouldn't put all my life and all my money. But I would put some.
You would put serious time, effort & money into it knowing it’ll be ripped off ? Why bother ?

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2018, 12:28:02 PM »
Me personally? No I wouldn't put all my life and all my money. But I would put some.
And because of that, the chances of it succeeding would be lower than someone who invested their blood, sweat, tears, and money into the same thing.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2018, 12:29:51 PM »

And you believe, in all sincerity, that without financial gain as a motive we would be in exactly the same place we are today technologically, artistically, medically and everything elsely? Or is this just a giant troll because you thought I was serious about United's peacock policy?
No I'm not trolling. I don't either believe what I'm saying is true, I'm saying that it might be true that's why I ended off my idea asking a question if you think it's a bad idea.

And yes I'm guessing that we eventually would end up with the same things. Truthfully, I do have a hard time imaging that in regards to researching medicines.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2018, 12:31:56 PM »
If you think that the pride that comes from creating something is a more motivating factor than the money that comes from it, you need to get your head screwed back on straight.
No I don't think of it as a more motivating factor. I think of it as a turtle vs a hare. One is slower but will eventually make it to the end also.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2018, 12:32:07 PM »
I totally agree. I thought of similar scenarios, I'm not trying to say that someone can't claim they are the original creators. In fact I want them to be able to do that because that pride is part of what drives people to help society by creating things.

I was thinking about the financial side of things.

Okay, lets discuss the financial side of things. Like how much it costs to develop a medicine and bring it to market, How much it costs a company like Apple to develop a device like the iPhone and all of its features, how much it costs to produce a music album, etc, etc.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2018, 12:33:00 PM »
No I don't think of it as a more motivating factor. I think of it as a turtle vs a hare. One is slower but will eventually make it to the end also.
Do you think we would be better off with no patents and technology being the way it was 100 years ago?
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2018, 12:33:29 PM »
You would put serious time, effort & money into it knowing it’ll be ripped off ? Why bother ?
Because it feels good to help society. Plus usually the thing that I would work on is something that would benefit me personally.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2018, 12:35:14 PM »
Because it feels good to help society. Plus usually the thing that I would work on is something that would benefit me personally.
You're trolling :)

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2018, 12:35:18 PM »
No I don't think of it as a more motivating factor. I think of it as a turtle vs a hare. One is slower but will eventually make it to the end also.
Let's take it for granted that you're right, (although I disagree with that as well,) what good comes from having the advancement of ideas and new products come to the market at a slower rate? Why would we want to do anything that would slow down our economy and technological advancement?
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2018, 12:37:08 PM »
Because it feels good to help society. Plus usually the thing that I would work on is something that would benefit me personally.
In that case, what happens when the going gets tough and it doesn't feel good anymore?

What happens when your life circumstances change and you won't anymore personally benefit from what you're working on?

What happens when you get too busy and simply can't afford to spend all that time working on something that doesn't earn you any money?
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2018, 12:52:40 PM »
No I'm not trolling. I don't either believe what I'm saying is true, I'm saying that it might be true that's why I ended off my idea asking a question if you think it's a bad idea.

And yes I'm guessing that we eventually would end up with the same things. Truthfully, I do have a hard time imaging that in regards to researching medicines.
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