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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #120 on: February 02, 2018, 10:31:58 AM »
Without patents by the time that would happen there would be no humans left to clone.
Because whenever i write copy I need to edit it over a million times.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #121 on: February 02, 2018, 10:59:00 AM »
Cure all diseases?

If someone created a pill that cures all diseases anti-vaxxers won't take it because Big Pharma is making money.
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If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #122 on: February 02, 2018, 11:30:57 AM »
Honestly, I'd imagine the best shot we have at that is using AI and gene editing on clones of human beings.
Most diseases are not gene based. Also, why would it have to be on clones? We're much closer to gene manipulation on humans than we are on cloning.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #123 on: February 02, 2018, 11:40:44 AM »
Just a side note to all this, nearly all the technologies which have transformed the world over the last 75? years either are, or are derivatives of, projects funded by the government for defense purposes.

A DDF apropos example: SABRE is based on a system developed for tracking missiles in real time. (I forget what it was called and I'm too lazy to look it up.)


-of course that doesn't mean they would've been made into the viable products they are without patents/copyrights,  it's just an interesting tidbit...

Maybe one day when I'm bored I'll look into how much medical research is government funded

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #124 on: February 02, 2018, 12:03:43 PM »
If I could, I would redesign all urban cities to have pumps built into the middle of the street (underground). Therefore have more parking spots.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #125 on: February 02, 2018, 12:06:31 PM »
Just a side note to all this, nearly all the technologies which have transformed the world over the last 75? years either are, or are derivatives of, projects funded by the government for defense purposes.

A DDF apropos example: SABRE is based on a system developed for tracking missiles in real time. (I forget what it was called and I'm too lazy to look it up.)


-of course that doesn't mean they would've been made into the viable products they are without patents/copyrights,  it's just an interesting tidbit...

Maybe one day when I'm bored I'll look into how much medical research is government funded
My grandfather was once selling a product (an ultrasonic rodent reppeller, iinm) and in a yechidus the Rebbe explained how NASA inventing the microchip enabled his product to be invented, without it it would be way too big.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #126 on: February 02, 2018, 12:34:05 PM »
If I could, I would redesign all urban cities to have pumps built into the middle of the street (underground). Therefore have more parking spots.
What exactly does that mean?
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #127 on: February 02, 2018, 12:36:08 PM »
What exactly does that mean?
I think it's very simple, since you can't park in front of pumps, have them in middle of the street, in the ground, where no one parks should the pumps be needed, and alas extra parking spots
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #128 on: February 02, 2018, 12:52:55 PM »
I think it's very simple, since you can't park in front of pumps, have them in middle of the street, in the ground, where no one parks should the pumps be needed, and alas extra parking spots
Said well. Now we just need an engineer to tell us how that's impossible to design.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2018, 07:32:34 PM »
My grandfather was once selling a product (an ultrasonic rodent reppeller, iinm) and in a yechidus the Rebbe explained how NASA inventing the microchip enabled his product to be invented, without it it would be way too big.

I was under the impression that Jack Kilby invented the micro-chip.
One thing I am sure of - the government gets a lot of credit for inventing things that they haven't.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2018, 07:39:21 PM »
Just a side note to all this, nearly all the technologies which have transformed the world over the last 75? years either are, or are derivatives of, projects funded by the government for defense purposes.

A DDF apropos example: SABRE is based on a system developed for tracking missiles in real time. (I forget what it was called and I'm too lazy to look it up.)


-of course that doesn't mean they would've been made into the viable products they are without patents/copyrights,  it's just an interesting tidbit...

Maybe one day when I'm bored I'll look into how much medical research is government funded

I'm sorry but this is pure propaganda
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #131 on: February 03, 2018, 07:51:54 PM »
A DDF apropos example: SABRE is based on a system developed for tracking missiles in real time. (I forget what it was called and I'm too lazy to look it up.)

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ibm100/us/en/icons/sabre/breakthroughs/
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #132 on: February 03, 2018, 08:21:03 PM »
I'm sorry but this is pure propaganda
What part of it?

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #133 on: February 03, 2018, 08:38:31 PM »
I was under the impression that Jack Kilby invented the micro-chip.
One thing I am sure of - the government gets a lot of credit for inventing things that they haven't.
Iinm, he invented it with Texas instruments *for* NASA and the DOD.

In the yechidus I mentioned the Rebbe actually was detailed about the technology and how it advanced to be used for consumer goods.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #134 on: February 03, 2018, 08:49:13 PM »
Iinm, he invented it with Texas instruments *for* NASA and the DOD.

{Citation needed}

Regardless, it was not a government funded invention.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2018, 08:51:24 PM »
What part of it?

The part that says the government is responsible for basically all modern technology.
Government may have been involved in some or even created some tech but hardly responsible for everything.
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #136 on: February 03, 2018, 09:03:04 PM »
Most diseases are not gene based. Also, why would it have to be on clones? We're much closer to gene manipulation on humans than we are on cloning.
Disclaimer: I don't know biology. I don't even know the exact definition of what a gene is. I think it has something to do with DNA. And that its what makes each person different from each other.

Now when you say that most diseases aren't gene based, do you mean something like the flu, which is caught from the environment? If so I find it hard to believe that most diseases aren't gene based. Or that you can't modify something to become resistant to a disease.

And what I meant was that with clones of human beings you can find out exactly what each gene does by modifying and comparing it with a clone. I think they do that with identical twins. I'm actually not sure what the next step would be.

Anyways as a side note I saw this https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/01/24/579925801/chinese-scientists-clone-monkeys-using-method-that-created-dolly-the-sheep
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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #137 on: February 03, 2018, 09:10:08 PM »
{Citation needed}

Regardless, it was not a government funded invention.
Whether or not Texas Instruments was under contract with NASA at the time of the invention, I can't tell. But, what is clear is that it was how the Apollo computer used the chip that made its way into modern technology and revolutionized it.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ic-pg3.html

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/apollo-guidance-computer-and-first-silicon-chips

Search for NASA spinoffs. You might be surprised.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #138 on: February 03, 2018, 09:17:12 PM »
The part that says the government is responsible for basically all modern technology.
Government may have been involved in some or even created some tech but hardly responsible for everything.
I can't tell you that everything in technology was sourced from the government, but what I can tell you is that almost every single standard was pushed and developed by the government, I. E. The NIST standards, and FESMA standards, etc., as well as developing the precursor of the Internet, ARPAnet etc.

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Re: If I Could, I Would... (Master Thread)
« Reply #139 on: February 03, 2018, 10:13:32 PM »
The part that says the government is responsible for basically all modern technology.
Government may have been involved in some or even created some tech but hardly responsible for everything.
1. I never said the government was responsible for everything.
nearly all the technologies which have transformed the world over the last 75? years either are, or are derivatives of, projects funded by the government for defense purposes.
2. According to a podcast I listen to, "Leslie's research suggests that the DoD sponsored a 3rd of all industrial research in the 1950s, with the number as high as 75% in electronics."
3. I'll be shocked if the government wasn't giving tons of money to TI and others working on microchips, but I'll have to look into it.