Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)

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Makes a lot of sense to me.

And it's good that none of the crazy murderers of the last century were religious...

Thats what the Lubavitcher Rebbe said, at least re: a moment of silence

Stalin, Hitler and many others had nothing to do with religion.

But gun control sure helped my dead extended family in 1944

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https://www.vosizneias.com/309008/2018/11/01/parkland-fl-2-jewish-fathers-lost-their-daughters-in-the-parkland-shooting-now-theyre-fighting-on-different-sides-of-the-gun-debate/

Incredible piece. I like that guttenberg proposes positive gun control not in violation of the 2nd. Keeping in mind, most opposition to gun control is that they are just gun grabbing excuses.

But his logic that armed guards is the ploy of gun companies sounds like anti vaxxers saying how vaccinations are a scam by big pharma.


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[yesitsme]

Let me ask you a simple questions. Do you believe guns save or take more lives?

Guns definitely take lives and we gotta do more to save lives, The bad guy is going to gut his gun regardless, you need to put the good guy against him.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Guns definitely take lives and we gotta do more to save lives, The bad guy is going to gut his gun regardless, you need to put the good guy against him.

Do you own a gun? Have you ever shot someone? Have you ever been shot?

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Do you own a gun? Have you ever shot someone? Have you ever been shot?

I own a gun and was shot at many times in Israel. All the guns the terrorists in Israel use are illegal, smuggled in, homemade, stole from soldiers etc

Saying gun control saves lives, defies the underlying aspect of those committing crimes. We have 10 million illegal immigrants, billions of pounds of illegal drugs are coming into the USA.

GUN CONTROL! disarm the law-abiding masses so the animals can kill us.

You have a victim mentality.

Not me, NEVER AGAIN! I grew up around the survivors, I have no extended family as the Nazi's killed them all and we were a huge respected family in Michelovtza before the war.

I remember Pesha Lapine HYD

I remember jews cowering in their homes in CH during the '91 riots.

I will not be a victim in a Yarmulka.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I will not be a victim in a Yarmulka.

Your gun or Yarmulka is no match for someone that knows how to handle a gun. We are very fortunate that most if not all these mass murders are incompetent when in comes to guns.

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Your gun or Yarmulka is no match for someone that knows how to handle a gun. We are very fortunate that most if not all these mass murders are incompetent when in comes to guns.

you just contradicted yourself

Look, the fact is no one can back any arguments as its all theory.

But, whether shootings would have ended faster / less deadly if someone was armed or were there shootings that were cut short and live's saved because someone was armed?

And yet you may be proposing more deaths by disarming law-abiding citizens as noble as your motives


I know how to handle a gun tyvm, I have gone to the range north of 50 times. I am no expert but nor is the attacker unless he's some rouge delta force

[ChaimMoskowitz]

you just contradicted yourself

Look, the fact is no one can back any arguments as its all theory.

But, whether shootings would have ended faster / less deadly if someone was armed or were there shootings that were cut short and live's saved because someone was armed?

And yet you may be proposing more deaths by disarming law-abiding citizens as noble as your motives


I know how to handle a gun tyvm, I have gone to the range north of 50 times. I am no expert but nor is the attacker unless he's some rouge delta force

I didn't contradict anything.
You and others keep making comments on my gun control stance and you don't even know what it is.
We have a problem in this country with to many guns. You don't solve that by adding more guns. It is called common sense.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Maybe we need to arm yoga instructors. When are going to wake up? 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gunman-in-yoga-studio-shooting-recorded-misogynistic-videos-and-faced-battery-charges/ar-BBPiCA1?ocid=spartanntp

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Maybe we need to arm yoga instructors. When are going to wake up? 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gunman-in-yoga-studio-shooting-recorded-misogynistic-videos-and-faced-battery-charges/ar-BBPiCA1?ocid=spartanntp

And what if they were stabbed to death?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

How many more must die?
Does everyone have to lose a Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, Daughter or Son before we wake up as a country?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=97391.msg2010184#msg2010184

[ChaimMoskowitz]

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=97391.msg2010184#msg2010184

Report the handgun had an extended magazine. We all know we need HCM for our protection. 

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Report the handgun had an extended magazine. We all know we need HCM for our protection. 

Isn't it already illegal in CA?

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Isn't it already illegal in CA?

I believe CA has a max capacity for guns.
ETA: Sheriff states extended magazines are illegal in CA.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

Where are the idiots with a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy with a gun. 

[justaregularguy]

Where are the idiots with a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy with a gun. 

he tried

[skyguy918]

he tried

So you're saying we should have more cops...

[ChaimMoskowitz]

he tried

I fully understand that. My point is a good guy with a gun is not the solution. It can help in the big picture.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

I guess we should take away guns from cops too

No just try and use a little logic and common sense. The problem is this mantra of the NRA is pure BS and you bought into it. @avromie7

[avromie7]

No just try and use a little logic and common sense. The problem is this mantra of the NRA is pure BS and you bought into it. @avromie7

It's just as ludicrous as the argument that because the cop with a gun wasn't able to stop him, it proves that good guys with guns don't work.