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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 204896 times)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1500 on: November 08, 2018, 04:36:41 PM »
It's just as ludicrous as the argument that because the cop with a gun wasn't able to stop him, it proves that good guys with guns don't work.
You are not using logic or common sense. You are stuck in your extreme view. No one ever said a good guy with a gun cant stop someone. What I said the NRA mantra is BS and you keep buying into it.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1501 on: November 08, 2018, 04:48:47 PM »


You are not using logic or common sense. You are stuck in your extreme view. No one ever said a good guy with a gun cant stop someone. What I said the NRA mantra is BS and you keep buying into it.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1502 on: November 08, 2018, 04:51:05 PM »
Lol
If you have something to say then say it.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1503 on: November 08, 2018, 04:51:43 PM »
If you have something to say then say it.
I did. Was simple and to the point.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1504 on: November 08, 2018, 04:54:44 PM »
I did. Was simple and to the point.
Stupid and idiotic would be more accurate. 
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1505 on: November 08, 2018, 05:41:47 PM »
Stupid and idiotic would be more accurate.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1506 on: November 08, 2018, 05:47:35 PM »
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1507 on: November 08, 2018, 06:07:54 PM »
Stupid and idiotic would be more accurate.
Let me clarify.
You have an opinion (rather extreme IMHO) and now anything anyone else says is extreme, reckless, radical, insane etc.

That just got to me.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1508 on: November 08, 2018, 06:15:20 PM »
Let me clarify.
You have an opinion (rather extreme IMHO) and now anything anyone else says is extreme, reckless, radical, insane etc.

That just got to me.
That's fair. What do you feel my opinion is?

When you propose any gun measure and the response is "2A" I consider that as most would as an extreme position. If someone proposes increase mental health checks and the response is "ban guns" I consider that as most would as an extreme position.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1509 on: November 08, 2018, 06:18:52 PM »


That's fair. What do you feel my opinion is?

When you propose any gun measure and the response is "2A" I consider that as most would as an extreme position. If someone proposes increase mental health checks and the response is "ban guns" I consider that as most would as an extreme position.
When people say "England" I say 2A.
Or when people say "tighter laws" I say Chicago.

It's not all about 2A, but completely abolishing guns can be argued as effective, but there we have 2A.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1510 on: November 08, 2018, 06:23:29 PM »
When people say "England" I say 2A.
Or when people say "tighter laws" I say Chicago.

It's not all about 2A, but completely abolishing guns can be argued as effective, but there we have 2A.
You completely avoided my question. You consider my views as extreme. What are my views as you see them?

Please don't keep repeating this non-sense. It just shows you don't understand the issue.
Or when people say "tighter laws" I say Chicago.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1511 on: November 08, 2018, 06:25:24 PM »


You completely avoided my question. You consider my views as extreme. What are my views as you see them?

Please don't keep repeating this non-sense. It just shows you don't understand the issue.

You can barely properly present your opinion, you expect me too?
Knowing how to should a gun says nothing about knowing gun laws effectiveness.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1512 on: November 08, 2018, 06:30:58 PM »

You can barely properly present your opinion, you expect me too?
Knowing how to should a gun says nothing about knowing gun laws effectiveness.
You claim my opinions are extreme. So you are saying this without even knowing what they are?


Let me give a little gun lesson 101 for free. Your welcome.  :)
Chicago guns laws are meaningless if you can go less than a mile away and get a gun in a neighboring suburb. For gun laws to be most effective they need to be done on a national level.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1513 on: November 08, 2018, 06:33:22 PM »


Guns laws are meaningless if you can go less than a mile away and get a gun in a neighboring criminal.
FTFY
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1514 on: November 08, 2018, 06:35:46 PM »
FTFY
You are just showing your ignorance on the issue. You should really give it a break.

I guess I can forget about getting an answer to my question?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1515 on: November 08, 2018, 06:36:51 PM »
You are just showing your ignorance on the issue. You should really give it a break.

I guess I can forget about getting an answer to my question?
I already said I have no intention on writing an essay of your opinions.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1516 on: November 08, 2018, 06:39:29 PM »
I already said I have no intention on writing an essay of your opinions.
Why is it every time a member here gets called out he can't back it up?
Just give a couple basic ones you feel are my extreme views on guns. No need for an essay.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1517 on: November 08, 2018, 07:14:13 PM »


Why is it every time a member here gets called out he can't back it up?
Just give a couple basic ones you feel are my extreme views on guns. No need for an essay.
I'm not going to sort through em all, but here's a close by one
the NRA mantra is BS

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1518 on: November 08, 2018, 07:18:20 PM »
I'm not going to sort through em all, but here's a close by one
At least got one from you.
By mantra I am referring to a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy with a gun. That was just proven to be BS today. So that is an extreme position?
Now I know why you don't want to answer the question.  :)
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1519 on: November 08, 2018, 07:19:37 PM »
At least got one from you.
By mantra I am referring to a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy with a gun. That was just proven to be BS today. So that is an extreme position?
Now I know why you don't want to answer the question.  :)
That is extreme IMNSHO.
According to that logic anytime a cop is shot that's disproven.
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