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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 66902 times)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1605 on: August 07, 2019, 08:16:07 AM »
If there isn't anything wrong about the content, how does it indicate an insane mindset?
The mindset is we need guns everywhere to make us safer. The exact opposite is true.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1606 on: August 07, 2019, 08:23:11 AM »
The mindset is we need guns everywhere to make us safer. The exact opposite is true.
The mind set is that (unless you confiscate the guns) since the bad guys wont observe him free zones, it is pointless to make laws about them, as this will stop only law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Perhaps you are bothered by the fact that legislation with the word "gun" in it was passed, and it does not include a ban, but that doesn't make the mindset behind this insane. Actually quite logical.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1607 on: August 07, 2019, 08:27:21 AM »


First of all why does 1% of the person's time when they are exposed to these games/movies outweigh the 99% when they are exposed to just the opposite? (This is assuming that the other 99% of time people value life and don't glamorize violence like I said before ).

not gonna get involved in if violent video games bring people to violence , but i will say that if you think they are only exposed to these things 1% of the time , than you clearly have no idea of whats gong on
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1608 on: August 07, 2019, 08:29:02 AM »
The mind set is that (unless you confiscate the guns) since the bad guys wont observe him free zones, it is pointless to make laws about them, as this will stop only law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Perhaps you are bothered by the fact that legislation with the word "gun" in it was passed, and it does not include a ban, but that doesn't make the mindset behind this insane. Actually quite logical.
Your logic is flawed on so many levels I don't know where to start. You believe the NRA BS that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun. Using that logic lets make it mandatory everyone over the age of 18 must carry a weapon. Since there are more good guys than bad guys we will all be safe.  ::)
You are getting close to drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1609 on: August 07, 2019, 09:27:21 AM »
Your logic is flawed on so many levels I don't know where to start. You believe the NRA BS that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun. Using that logic lets make it mandatory everyone over the age of 18 must carry a weapon. Since there are more good guys than bad guys we will all be safe.  ::)
You are getting close to drinking the Kool-Aid.
You are putting words in my mouth

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1610 on: August 07, 2019, 09:43:29 AM »
You are putting words in my mouth
Please correct what I have wrong.
What this law does is perpetuate the notion by putting guns everywhere it makes us safer. That mindset needs to be changed.
You need a common sense approach to this. You need a license to drive a car. Would it not make sense for everyone to have a license to own a gun?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1611 on: August 07, 2019, 10:05:31 AM »
Please correct what I have wrong.
What this law does is perpetuate the notion by putting guns everywhere it makes us safer. That mindset needs to be changed.
You need a common sense approach to this. You need a license to drive a car. Would it not make sense for everyone to have a license to own a gun?
What I said was that once the bad guy already has a gun, the only way to stop him is by taking it a way, or, yes, letting a good guy bring a gun. What would you do once the bad guy has a gun?

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1612 on: August 07, 2019, 10:17:43 AM »
What I said was that once the bad guy already has a gun, the only way to stop him is by taking it a way, or, yes, letting a good guy bring a gun. What would you do once the bad guy has a gun?
Have the police take him out.
How did the WM work out? You telling me no one had a gun? Don't drink that Kool-Aid.  ;)
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1613 on: August 07, 2019, 10:19:48 AM »
Have the police take him out.
How did the WM work out? You telling me no one had a gun? Don't drink that Kool-Aid.  ;)
Police are obviously better if they are there

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1614 on: August 07, 2019, 10:21:25 AM »
Police are obviously better if they are there
True and how about my question?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1616 on: August 07, 2019, 12:23:04 PM »
Young white men. Chew this over (another 2 since this article)
https://nypost.com/2019/07/31/readers-sound-off-on-why-young-american-men-are-so-angry/

There's a lot of overlap here with what that State Rep tweeted and is facing calls to resign for.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1617 on: August 07, 2019, 02:37:24 PM »
There's a lot of overlap here with what that State Rep tweeted and is facing calls to resign for.
I guess I missed the part where the people in that article said we should blame LGTBQ, marijuana, Obama, Colin Kaepernick, Dem Congress, etc. for the shootings.  ::)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1618 on: August 07, 2019, 03:01:04 PM »
God created men and women with many many many differences between them. I would say this is related to one or more of those differences.
Absolutely.
not gonna get involved in if violent video games bring people to violence , but i will say that if you think they are only exposed to these things 1% of the time , than you clearly have no idea of whats gong on
You're talking about games/videos or the culture in general?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1619 on: August 08, 2019, 06:35:53 PM »
It's not, but a massacre that is done with a gun may very well have been perpetrated another way if the perpetrator didn't have access to a gun.
Stabbing sprees kill five individuals in different states. To bad they didn't have an AR-15 with a 100 round drum. Probably only one or two would have been killed then. See how much sense your logic makes?  >:( >:( >:(
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