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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 199120 times)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2018, 10:33:45 PM »
no killer goes in their thinking through the consequences in a logical matter. they go in thinking that their is potential to get killed by responding law enforcement
I'm not following. Therefore what?
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2018, 10:34:01 PM »
What I meant was the ones that count towards the number two should be fatal shots (killed on scene). Not non fatal shots that killed from let's say bleeding.
OK, I thought you meant to kill the shooter on scene.  :)
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2018, 10:35:41 PM »
I'm not following. Therefore what?
therefore thedeath penalty wont really prevent them from killing people if they have no real plans on living
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2018, 10:36:28 PM »
OK, I thought you meant to kill the shooter on scene.  :)
we should but thats not gonna prevent more such stories from happening
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2018, 10:38:30 PM »
They shouldn't ban them. They should tax them. Big time. At the manufacturer level. Thousands of dollars per new gun. And offer tax credit or other incentives to turn in old ones. Eventually pass a federal tax on keeping existing guns. Don't turn in your guns? Tax lien on your house!
What do you gain by doing this? Why not just ban it right away and yes all guns have to be turned in. Maybe offer tax credits for the financial loss.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2018, 10:41:13 PM »
That is a good idea. Then you would be hearing the D's screaming what about the poor people, they can't afford a gun.
FTFY
And they'll come up with the solution of taxing rich people more so that the poor people will be able to afford it.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2018, 10:43:38 PM »
FTFY
And they'll come up with the solution of taxing rich people more so that the poor people will be able to afford it.
More like complaining about the rich who can afford it
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2018, 10:45:31 PM »
FTFY
You just can't look at anything objectively. The D's want less people with guns.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2018, 10:57:13 PM »
You just can't look at anything objectively. The D's want less people with guns.
I'm not sure I believe that. I think they just want to control people in any way possible (since they know better on how to spend our money, raise our kids, believe in our god's, etc). If it means to say guns are bad, fine. If it means making people give up their money for other people's 'rights', also fine.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2018, 11:01:31 PM »
I'm not sure I believe that. I think they just want to control people in any way possible (since they know better on how to spend our money, raise our kids, believe in our god's, etc). If it means to say guns are bad, fine. If it means making people give up their money for other people's 'rights', also fine.
OK I get it. You are drinking the Kool-Aid.  :)
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2018, 11:04:10 PM »
therefore thedeath penalty wont really prevent them from killing people if they have no real plans on living
I hear. You might be making making a valid point. I have to think about it. I thought of it as the shooters objective is to cause as much harm to get their revenge. But the shooter won't do anything to themselves to cause themselves to be in more trouble than necessary in case they get out alive.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2018, 11:06:42 PM »
18 school shootings this year already. Keep doing nothing and expect different results?  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2018, 11:09:20 PM »
OK I get it. You are drinking the Kool-Aid.  :)
Come on. You could do better than that. How about I watch too much Hanity. Or call me a gullible. Or I'm ok with the guy in the White House who's is a pervert.......
And while we at it let's decide if Trump didn't respond quick enough. Or he responded too quick. Doesn't really matter because either way it's his fault and that's all that's important.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #93 on: February 14, 2018, 11:12:11 PM »
Come on. You could do better than that. How about I watch too much Hanity. Or call me a gullible. Or I'm ok with the guy in the White House who's is a pervert.......
And while we at it let's decide if Trump didn't respond quick enough. Or he responded too quick. Doesn't really matter because either way it's his fault and that's all that's important.
If you think the D's aren't anti-gun then all of the above!!!
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #94 on: February 14, 2018, 11:13:20 PM »
That would allow using the tax code to penalize any freedom. Tax religion. Tax speech. Not even a slippery slope it is what they would be doing.
Wouldn't be the first time we used the tax code for social purposes...think liquor or cigarette taxes.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2018, 11:13:22 PM »
What some of you sound like is like saying we should take care of it by flying over with a plane with a big magnet which will pull all the guns away from everyone. All the we shoulds are pointless if they are not realistic under the constitution.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #96 on: February 14, 2018, 11:13:56 PM »
Wouldn't be the first time we used the tax code for social purposes...think liquor or cigarette taxes.
Those are not constitutionally protected.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #97 on: February 14, 2018, 11:14:43 PM »
If you think the D's aren't anti-gun they all of the above!!!
They are definitely more willing to curtail freedoms to accomplish their agenda.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #98 on: February 14, 2018, 11:15:45 PM »
Those are not constitutionally protected.
You're sort of forgetting about the way prohibition went down..

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #99 on: February 14, 2018, 11:21:02 PM »
You're sort of forgetting about the way prohibition went down..
Not at all. There is no protected right to drink alcohol and never was. The reason it need an amendment was because it was not under federal authority.
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