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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 200329 times)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #240 on: February 15, 2018, 03:20:39 PM »
The point was, @ChaimMoskowitz asked what use there is for an AR15 and I gave an answer, you can disagree, but that doesn't give you a right to take away someone elses rights.
all i am saying is dont call it a hunting rifle if thats not what it is.  you can use a paring knife to cut steak if you had to but thats not what its meant for and youre gonna have a hard  time as well
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #241 on: February 15, 2018, 03:27:19 PM »
It looks like a PR stunt by the NRA, this only happened a few years ago.
Definitely a PR stunt but you are still not right...

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #242 on: February 15, 2018, 03:28:52 PM »
The point was, @ChaimMoskowitz asked what use there is for an AR15 and I gave an answer, you can disagree, but that doesn't give you a right to take away someone elses rights.
I said “practical”.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #243 on: February 15, 2018, 03:30:37 PM »
I said “practical”.
You don't find it practical, others clearly do find it practical - 5 million others - you have full right to disagree with them, you do not have a right to take away their rights.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #244 on: February 15, 2018, 03:37:02 PM »
You don't find it practical, others clearly do find it practical - 5 million others - you have full right to disagree with them, you do not have a right to take away their rights.
So now you are switching gears to their rights.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #245 on: February 15, 2018, 03:38:51 PM »
So now you are switching gears to their rights.
I always said it was about rights. Do you believe the government should take away peoples rights?
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #246 on: February 15, 2018, 03:40:11 PM »
I always said it was about rights. Do you believe the government should take away peoples rights?
You might want to read up on SCOTUS decisions.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #247 on: February 15, 2018, 04:02:02 PM »
plenty of "rights" have been taken away

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #248 on: February 15, 2018, 04:03:42 PM »
plenty of "rights" have been taken away
Lame
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #249 on: February 15, 2018, 04:07:50 PM »
what is lame about that

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #250 on: February 15, 2018, 04:14:10 PM »
plenty of "rights" have been taken away
Is that your excuse for full government control like DPRK?
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #251 on: February 15, 2018, 04:16:06 PM »
Is that your excuse for full government control like DPRK?
thats how it works ? limit gun ownership and the next step isbecome a dictator with concentration camps torturing millions of citizens? in that case please do not take away anyones gun righs its just not worth it!!!
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #252 on: February 15, 2018, 04:21:33 PM »
thats how it works ? limit gun ownership and the next step isbecome a dictator with concentration camps torturing millions of citizens? in that case please do not take away anyones gun righs its just not worth it!!!
There needs to be clear boundaries that the government can't cross. We can discuss where the line should be drawn, but if you make light of the idea of people having rights that the government should not infringe on, we are heading directly toward a authoritarian government controlling every move we make.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #253 on: February 15, 2018, 04:54:35 PM »
There needs to be clear boundaries that the government can't cross. We can discuss where the line should be drawn, but if you make light of the idea of people having rights that the government should not infringe on, we are heading directly toward a authoritarian government controlling every move we make.
+1 whether you think it's silly or not, that is the point of the second amendment, and it's not going away.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #254 on: February 15, 2018, 05:39:17 PM »
The thing Tapper reported is not dropping the ball IMO. You have no idea how many of these type of things go to the FBI, or what the difficulties are in identifying some random internet commenter (even if they use their name). It doesn't mean it can't be done, but if you have to do it for every potential threat, you'll never get anything done.
That may be but to say he was an honest citizen until today is a pants on fire Trumpian lie. I fully support that there is much to do to to get a handle on guns. Being dishonest like that does not help the cause.

See the newer thread. There was so much on this guy. I understand how things can fall through cracks. But that is what happened with just about every single one of these cases. It seems like there may be a need for improvement or a revamp of the background check system. This guy was suspended for violence and binging ammo.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/964200355612512256
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/964203163367583744
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/964203915075051525
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #255 on: February 15, 2018, 05:40:32 PM »
Is that your excuse for full government control like DPRK?
Slippery slope fallacy.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #256 on: February 15, 2018, 05:41:18 PM »
There needs to be clear boundaries that the government can't cross. We can discuss where the line should be drawn, but if you make light of the idea of people having rights that the government should not infringe on, we are heading directly toward a authoritarian government controlling every move we make.
SCOTUS has set boundaries. They are not the ones you are prescribing.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #257 on: February 15, 2018, 05:41:48 PM »
+1 whether you think it's silly or not, that is the point of the second amendment, and it's not going away.
SCOTUS has set boundaries. They are not the ones you are prescribing.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #258 on: February 15, 2018, 05:44:49 PM »
Slippery slope fallacy.
-1
If his opinion is that individual rights are not very important, then we are headed for an all out DPRK
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #259 on: February 15, 2018, 05:49:13 PM »
Does the second amendment cover ammunition?
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