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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 203059 times)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #580 on: February 18, 2018, 07:03:10 PM »
He hits the nail on the head.
How could he have hit the mail on the head if all he said was that "common sense" proposals "make sense"?
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #581 on: February 18, 2018, 07:04:30 PM »

I am rarely able to find the time for these things unfortunately. Much less so for a discussion about guns of all things.

I would love to meet you guys sometime or other anyhow.



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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #583 on: February 18, 2018, 07:05:16 PM »

If you make one I would stop by if it works.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #584 on: February 18, 2018, 07:07:56 PM »
How could he have hit the mail on the head if all he said was that "common sense" proposals "make sense"?
I took the liberty to assume one of them was the AR that preceded the common sense comment. I am also familiar with his views on gun control.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #585 on: February 18, 2018, 07:09:57 PM »
I took the liberty to assume one of them was the AR that preceded the common sense comment. I am also familiar with his views on gun control.
Okay. All he said about that was also nonsense that some guy who already owns an AR15 wouldn't feel his rights were violated if he couldn't buy another one or something like that. Good thing he is not President.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #586 on: February 18, 2018, 07:19:35 PM »
Okay. All he said about that was also nonsense that some guy who already owns an AR15 wouldn't feel his rights were violated if he couldn't buy another one or something like that. Good thing he is not President.
Close but he said buy not buy another AR. Might seem like a small distinction but it isn't. I am also assuming most serious gun collectors don't have an AR in their collection.
No one has come up with a legit reason to own an assault rifle like an AR. It can be used for many legit purposes but there are other non-assault rifles that serve those same purposes better.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #587 on: February 18, 2018, 07:27:19 PM »
Close but he said buy not buy another AR. Might seem like a small distinction but it isn't. I am also assuming most serious gun collectors don't have an AR in their collection.
No one has come up with a legit reason to own an assault rifle like an AR. It can be used for many legit purposes but there are other non-assault rifles that serve those same purposes better.
You are right. Not sure where I got that from.

They need AR15s to hunt hogs in TX. When going to the video linked they also had one of someone using a machine gun to hunt hogs and linked to here to explain why that is what they use and discuss AR15s as well.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/02/foghorn/ethics-shooting-hogs-helicopters/

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #590 on: February 18, 2018, 11:40:11 PM »
Pretty much. One thing you have to remember this isn't a political negotiation where you exchange one pork barrel project for another.

I have already stated mental health issues and school security should be part of this. The other side here won't even agree that things like 50-100 round HCM and bump stocks should be banned. You decide who wants an honest discussion!
Unfortunately many things shouldn't be political.
I am rarely able to find the time for these things unfortunately. Much less so for a discussion about guns of all things.

I would love to meet you guys sometime or other anyhow.

How can you have time to post all day but not have time for a lunch?? ( No offense..)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #591 on: February 18, 2018, 11:42:45 PM »
Unfortunately many things shouldn't be political.
How can you have time to post all day but not have time for a lunch?? ( No offense..)

It is a very good question. One can be done bein gavra ligavra during business hours since I am self employed. It also depends on the day.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #592 on: February 18, 2018, 11:55:33 PM »
It is a very good question. One can be done bein gavra ligavra during business hours since I am self employed. It also depends on the day.
TBH I find that a good break is better then being distracted over a longer period...but I don't practice what I preach as much as I'd like

But I'll leave that discussion to someone looking to start a new thread....

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #593 on: February 18, 2018, 11:56:42 PM »


TBH I find that a good break is better then being distracted over a longer period...but I don't practice what I preach as much as I'd like

But tapa won't let me start a new thread

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #594 on: February 18, 2018, 11:59:35 PM »

FTFY
Nah...I don't like to start JS threads...consumes too much time

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #595 on: February 19, 2018, 12:00:49 AM »
TBH I find that a good break is better then being distracted over a longer period...but I don't practice what I preach as much as I'd like

But I'll leave that discussion to someone looking to start a new thread....
You are right but it depends if you are doing one bigger thing or a bunch of small items sometimes with gaps between them. Some days are one way some the other.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #597 on: February 19, 2018, 11:21:28 AM »
This actually sounds like a great idea.
Oh no you are trampling my rights again!!!
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #598 on: February 19, 2018, 11:23:58 AM »

There are times that these rights can be taken away - when necessary - with due process, for example those who are a danger to themselves. I think this fulfills all the necessary criteria.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #599 on: February 19, 2018, 11:28:57 AM »
There are times that these rights can be taken away with due process, for example those who are a danger to themselves. I think this fulfills all the necessary criteria.
I missed that in the 2nd amendment. Let me check with the NRA and see if they can find it.
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