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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
10) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct. (D)
11) Stats prove my side of the argument 100% correct  (R)

Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 200115 times)

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #620 on: February 19, 2018, 07:16:41 PM »
Yes, you are probably the only one who feels that way, and still comes back
Keep hoping someone will come up with a new idea

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #621 on: February 19, 2018, 07:20:12 PM »
Keep hoping someone will come up with a new idea
I'm just getting back to this conversation after some real life.
I agree with President Trump. We need to ban mental illness.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #622 on: February 19, 2018, 07:36:29 PM »
I'm just getting back to this conversation after some real life.
I agree with President Trump. We need to ban mental illness.
Then we would have no government left.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #623 on: February 19, 2018, 07:39:29 PM »
Then we would have no government left.
Aw Shucks. I guess we're left with banning guns then.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #624 on: February 19, 2018, 08:09:06 PM »
Aw Shucks. I guess we're left with banning guns then.
Great idea. Now that you got that off your chest and feel all self righteous saying we should do something that can't pass Congress or SCOTUS let's sit and wait for another shooting so you can say it again.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #625 on: February 19, 2018, 08:11:41 PM »
Unfortunately scheduled for 64 days on average for another blathering politician to say it's unimaginable. And nothing to be done. After all insanity is a sacred right.

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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #626 on: February 19, 2018, 08:27:44 PM »
Unfortunately scheduled for 64 days on average for another blathering politician to say it's unimaginable. And nothing to be done. After all insanity is a sacred right.
Whether it would or should not be conditionally protected is not really relevant since the facts are that the right to bear arms is. Until you can get past that you can't really be taken seriously.
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #627 on: February 20, 2018, 10:57:10 AM »
I'm just getting back to this conversation after some real life.
I agree with President Trump. We need to ban mental illness.
Aw Shucks. I guess we're left with banning guns then.
Great idea. Now that you got that off your chest and feel all self righteous saying we should do something that can't pass Congress or SCOTUS let's sit and wait for another shooting so you can say it again.
https://reason.com/blog/2017/03/01/moral-outrage-is-self-serving
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Re: Another mass shooting!!!
« Reply #628 on: February 20, 2018, 12:50:29 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #629 on: February 20, 2018, 03:26:46 PM »
There are violent video games all over the world. And a fraction of the mass murder.

This will go on. And on. And on. Unless there is a culture change.


As happened with racism and civil rights.
And abortion. And Gay rights.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #630 on: February 20, 2018, 03:31:15 PM »
There are violent video games all over the world. And a fraction of the mass murder.

This will go on. And on. And on. Unless there is a culture change.


As happened with racism and civil rights.
And abortion. And Gay rights.
In the long run (100+ years) the number of innocent people who die because we allow guns, is so small to the point of insignificance, compared to the number of innocent killed by their own government who would be able to save themselves if they had guns.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #631 on: February 20, 2018, 03:43:09 PM »
In the long run (100+ years) the number of innocent people who die because we allow guns, is so small to the point of insignificance, compared to the number of innocent killed by their own government who would be able to save themselves if they had guns.
https://www.theonion.com/nation-hears-voices-encouraging-it-to-buy-gun-1823084495

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #632 on: February 20, 2018, 03:50:35 PM »
And abortion.
What happened with abortion?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #634 on: February 20, 2018, 03:52:38 PM »
There are violent video games all over the world. And a fraction of the mass murder.

This will go on. And on. And on. Unless there is a culture change.
Until that happens I guess you feel we are stuck.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #635 on: February 20, 2018, 03:58:54 PM »
Just confirmed at press conference Trump has no ideas of his own on what to do.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #636 on: February 20, 2018, 04:00:02 PM »
Banned Bump stocks?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #637 on: February 20, 2018, 04:04:06 PM »
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #638 on: February 20, 2018, 04:07:31 PM »
Looking into it.
Side note: those are the coolest things ever.
(not a gun fanatic)
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #639 on: February 20, 2018, 04:09:54 PM »
Side note: those are the coolest things ever.
(not a gun fanatic)
That is the whole problem. The same issue with AR's.
I just found a new supply of forks!