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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
2) The left wants an absolute gun ban - no guns at all, any type, for anyone, ever.
3) The right wants mass shootings, especially school shootings.
4) Everyone agrees we need to require better background checks and use more discretion in handing out gun licenses.
4.a The right cannot pass such legislation because it is a slippery slope to banning all guns, everywhere, for everyone.
4.b The left cannot pass such legislation because it is not enough.
5)  Every school in the US should have metal detectors at the entrance, be surrounded by a 30' cement wall and have armed guards in every classroom and hallway. The more guns around kids the better.
6) 7 year olds going through half an hour of security theater every day just to go to school is a perfectly normal and acceptable solution.
7) The second amendment entitles every US citizen to an AR-15.
8 ) Laws don't prevent crimes.
9) Guns don't kill people
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Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 200287 times)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #720 on: February 21, 2018, 01:43:52 PM »
I didn't assume anything. I answered your question. STOP WITH THE CRYING!!!

Why would a logical person compare the most powerful handgun to one of the least powerful assault rifles? I compared a .22 to a .223 with is slightly bigger in diameter. I happen to own a .44 Magnum which is one of the most powerful handguns made. You want me to use that as a comparison?  ::)
Please stop the ad hominem attacks, I guess because I didn't ask the right question the first time, you must be right.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #721 on: February 21, 2018, 02:11:53 PM »
Please stop the ad hominem attacks, I guess because I didn't ask the right question the first time, you must be right.
It is not about the right question. It is the question itself is not realistic. You now want me to compare the most powerful handgun to one of the least powerful assault rifle? Are you aware the AR .223 is one of the least powerful assault rifles?

Now back to the real world. FL won't even take up a debate on banning assault weapons. We are not talking about a vote, just a debate on the issue. Is that an honest discussion?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #722 on: February 21, 2018, 02:18:35 PM »
Now back to the real world. FL won't even take up a debate on banning assault weapons. We are not talking about a vote, just a debate on the issue. Is that an honest discussion?
You take up a debate that is headed in the right direction, if they feel banning assault weapons is barking up the wrong tree, why would they put it out for debate on the floor?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #723 on: February 21, 2018, 02:21:33 PM »
It is not about the right question. It is the question itself is not realistic. You now want me to compare the most powerful handgun to one of the least powerful assault rifle? Are you aware the AR .223 is one of the least powerful assault rifles?

Now back to the real world. FL won't even take up a debate on banning assault weapons. We are not talking about a vote, just a debate on the issue. Is that an honest discussion?
The debate that matters is not the one on the floor of a legislator. That is simply a procedural matter.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #724 on: February 21, 2018, 02:25:40 PM »
You take up a debate that is headed in the right direction, if they feel banning assault weapons is barking up the wrong tree, why would they put it out for debate on the floor?
To have an honest discussion. This is the same idiots that just said porn is health risk but trying to stop the killing of young kids isn't worth a debate?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/florida-house-declares-porn-a-public-health-risk-shortly-after-denying-assault-rifle-ban/ar-BBJpOct

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #725 on: February 21, 2018, 02:28:47 PM »
The debate that matters is not the one on the floor of a legislator. That is simply a procedural matter.
You have to start somewhere. It shows that are not serious in finding solutions if it evolves guns.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #726 on: February 21, 2018, 02:39:13 PM »
You have to start somewhere. It shows that are not serious in finding solutions if it evolves guns.
I disagree. The procedural stuff in the legislature is all meaningless for anything other that legislative strategy. It is like saying that to end a filibuster is to not want discussion on it since they ended debate. These are all covered by the Barone Rule.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #727 on: February 21, 2018, 02:45:09 PM »
I disagree. The procedural stuff in the legislature is all meaningless for anything other that legislative strategy. It is like saying that to end a filibuster is to not want discussion on it since they ended debate. These are all covered by the Barone Rule.
If they won't even have a debate you can be sure they will never allow a vote.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #728 on: February 21, 2018, 02:51:11 PM »
If they won't even have a debate you can be sure they will never allow a vote.
True, but having a debate in the house won't lead to having a vote if there is no political will. It's more of a symptom of public opinion than a cause

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #730 on: February 21, 2018, 03:05:11 PM »
California passed a law in October ensuring teachers won't be able to fight back against mass shooters.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #731 on: February 21, 2018, 03:49:37 PM »
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #733 on: February 21, 2018, 04:04:51 PM »
Oh the irony
Scott new they were coming to meet with him. Why didn't he tell the kids?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #734 on: February 21, 2018, 04:06:07 PM »
Scott new they were coming to meet with him. Why didn't he tell the kids?
May be a valid complaint. Still the shame on you, is ironic, quite judgmental.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #735 on: February 21, 2018, 04:13:30 PM »
May be a valid complaint. Still the shame on you, is ironic, quite judgmental.
They were told he was to busy. Going to a funeral to get votes is not a valid excuse to being to busy. What did he do after the last mass shooting in FL?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #736 on: February 21, 2018, 04:15:05 PM »
They were told he was to busy. Going to a funeral to get votes is not a valid excuse to being to busy. What did he do after the last mass shooting in FL?
Because you decided he did the right thing, just to get votes, it's wrong now?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #737 on: February 21, 2018, 04:17:29 PM »
Because you decided he did the right thing, just to get votes, it's wrong now?
Going to a funeral to gets votes is the right thing to do? I can see if you said it wasn't political we could agree to disagree. You have a lot to learn if you think going to a funeral for political reasons is OK.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #738 on: February 21, 2018, 04:18:09 PM »
They were told he was to busy. Going to a funeral to get votes is not a valid excuse to being to busy. What did he do after the last mass shooting in FL?
So he's terrible for not speaking to them, and his going to the funeral is worthless? What if it was the other way around, if he didn't go to the funeral because he was speaking to students? You'd have same complaint against him - speaking to the kids to get votes. Damned whichever way he goes.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #739 on: February 21, 2018, 04:22:21 PM »
So he's terrible for not speaking to them, and his going to the funeral is worthless? What if it was the other way around, if he didn't go to the funeral because he was speaking to students? You'd have same complaint against him - speaking to the kids to get votes. Damned whichever way he goes.
All he had to do was tell the kids. I am sure they could have done their bus tour another day when he was there.
Instead of posting nonsense try reading up a little on different assault rifles so you can ask educated questions instead of just repeating talking points.
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