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1) The Holocaust happened because Jews were unable to obtain guns due to Poland's notoriously strict gun laws.
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Author Topic: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)  (Read 203647 times)

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1001 on: February 23, 2018, 01:10:57 AM »
Not accurate. Didn't the shooting already start?
Huh?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1003 on: February 23, 2018, 01:16:42 AM »
Huh?
I assume when he is talking cowardice of his own people letting the shooting happen is about the security guard. It already started before he arrived on scene, no?

They said the FBI dropped the ball. Did this guy do anything illegal before hand that they could have arrested him for?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1004 on: February 23, 2018, 01:19:05 AM »
I assume when he is talking cowardice of his own people letting the shooting happen is about the security guard. It already started before he arrived on scene, no?

They said the FBI dropped the ball. Did this guy do anything illegal before hand that they could have arrested him for?
I still don't see what you are getting at
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1005 on: February 23, 2018, 01:22:20 AM »
I still don't see what you are getting at
This part "cowardice of his own ppl let the shooting happen" is talking about the deputy on duty at the school, no? How could he prevent it from happening?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1006 on: February 23, 2018, 01:23:18 AM »
This part "cowardice of his own ppl let the shooting happen" is talking about the deputy on duty at the school, no? How could he prevent it from happening?
He didn't mean prevent totally but he could have stopped it in the middle.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1007 on: February 23, 2018, 01:27:11 AM »
He didn't mean prevent totally but he could have stopped it in the middle.
I think we need to get an accurate timeline first. Could be another LAS when the first reports were not accurate.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1008 on: February 23, 2018, 01:29:30 AM »
I think we need to get an accurate timeline first. Could be another LAS when the first reports were not accurate.
Maybe but the point is still valid. This guy had the evidence which led him to release this statement already last night yet he himself was self righteously grandstanding and lecturing Rubio while he kept it to himself.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1011 on: February 23, 2018, 09:27:30 AM »
I heard that the whole attack was 6 minutes and the deputy was outside the building for 4 minutes

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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1012 on: February 23, 2018, 10:11:07 AM »
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1015 on: February 23, 2018, 12:32:04 PM »
can anyone explain to me how the sheriff can have the chutzpa to lay the blame on the FBI?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1016 on: February 23, 2018, 12:33:55 PM »
can anyone explain to me how the sheriff can have the chutzpa to lay the blame on the FBI?
Maybe he is taking a page out of you know whos book?
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1017 on: February 23, 2018, 01:07:39 PM »
can anyone explain to me how the sheriff can have the chutzpa to lay the blame on the FBI?
The same way he was grandstanding against Rubio during CNN's attack the NRA session.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1018 on: February 23, 2018, 01:08:18 PM »
Maybe he is taking a page out of you know whos book?
Yeah I can see similarities between the 2.
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Re: Parkland, FL 2/14/18 School Shooting, 17 Killed (Another mass shooting!)
« Reply #1019 on: February 23, 2018, 01:14:39 PM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-failure-of-law-enforcement-1519408337
The country is now engaged in a great debate over how to rewrite laws to prevent such horrific attacks in the future. But regardless of one’s proposed legislative solution, it will be useless if it is not faithfully and competently executed.

This column has long believed that the military, law enforcement and fire departments tend to work much better than other parts of government in part because of the exceptional people who choose to risk their lives for others and in part because, in contrast to the civil service, the consequences of failure are often catastrophic and immediate.

But in this case law enforcement didn’t work. Identifying and addressing the reasons for this failure should be the first response of federal and local government officials.
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