Author Topic: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam  (Read 17976 times)

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2018, 09:30:41 AM »
Alex aka Shlomo miles
So he says he's willing to work with people? That changes things
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2018, 09:32:48 AM »
See the comments in this post
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155283245463201&id=508518200

Now I feel I didn't do enough and hundreds more were stolen.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2018, 09:33:43 AM »
A judge wouldn't issue a restraining order? He would end up being charged with blackmail and obstruction to boot.

Did the Jewish party discuss going to court with their rov? If not then they probably should before going ahead with this. If yes then him going to the rov is not much if a threat.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2018, 09:33:57 AM »
So he says he's willing to work with people? That changes things

We are still waiting for him to send first payment and contact.
Hahahaha

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2018, 09:37:39 AM »
A judge wouldn't issue a restraining order? He would end up being charged with blackmail and obstruction to boot.

Did the Jewish party discuss going to court with their rov? If not then they probably should before going ahead with this. If yes then him going to the rov is not much if a threat.

The Jewish party was not ready to go to court he only signed on to the non-jewish letter of demand.
In the end the cost and effort of litigation does not justify pursuing it.

Both scammed parties felt this was taking over their life and time and there was just time to move on. Going to court would have taken much more effort from their  side as hard as it is it just wasn't worth it.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2018, 09:39:23 AM »
This isn't Sungames or a farm that can't be shut down easily because they operate in the grey.

This seems painfully simple:
A judge wouldn't issue a restraining order? He would end up being charged with blackmail and obstruction to boot.

Did the Jewish party discuss going to court with their rov? If not then they probably should before going ahead with this. If yes then him going to the rov is not much if a threat.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2018, 09:44:59 AM »
Dan has been warning on DDMS for years now not to sell points but to use them for lifetime memories. :)
But seriously DDMS isn’t FB or YWN.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2018, 10:21:28 AM »
Exactly, the nature of the story is not a fit for DDMS however i do think a post refreshing the issue of selling miles both from the T&C and from stories like these is timely
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2018, 10:26:57 AM »
Exactly, the nature of the story is not a fit for DDMS however i do think a post refreshing the issue of selling miles both from the T&C and from stories like these is timely
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However, you do have to look at it from the brokers' side. It can hurt their business.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2018, 10:32:09 AM »
And I hope everybody who did get cash from him made sure to report it (if necessary). Ya know, if law enforcement gets involved here.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2018, 11:01:45 AM »
Im not sure why you keep trying to steer it in that direction.

As I said above he took my BIL 500k UR promising 1.6 resold it to a non-Jewish company and was paid.

He then used the miles for tickets and hotel stays in his own name.


I can't figure it out he was cheating people on purpose, or just ended up in a bad situation and didn't pay and didn't care. ? Because clearly some people were getting paid.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2018, 11:04:50 AM »
He had a business in this field that supposedly went bankrupt/closed shop.

This story happened after he had closed already.

I think buying miles from A reselling it to B and then using it for yourself is "cheating people on purpose".

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2018, 11:07:46 AM »
And I hope everybody who did get cash from him made sure to report it (if necessary). Ya know, if law enforcement gets involved here.
not sure its reportable..it has been debated in the past

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2018, 11:08:15 AM »
He had a business in this field that supposedly went bankrupt/closed shop.

This story happened after he had closed already.

I think buying miles from A reselling it to B and then using it for yourself is "cheating people on purpose".

Got it.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2018, 11:08:24 AM »
Because clearly some people were getting paid.
Recently ?

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2018, 11:08:36 AM »
not sure its reportable..it has been debated in the past
A broker flipping miles is most certainly reportable income.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2018, 11:09:54 AM »
Recently ?
Seems like that's a no.
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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2018, 11:10:20 AM »
not sure its reportable..it has been debated in the past
The debate was points/miles.

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2018, 11:10:51 AM »
Seems like that's a no.
He used to be very reliable. Back then

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Re: PSA: Group For Victims Of Alex Kay Scam
« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2018, 11:11:23 AM »
He used to be very reliable. Back then
Got it. Crazy stuff.
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