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Blood donor?

Yes
20 (66.7%)
No
5 (16.7%)
I would but I am ineligible.
5 (16.7%)

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2018, 10:22:55 PM »
in those days the jewish places didnt really exist

I'll let you in on a little secret, when you go to "Jewish places" today, your blood goes to exactly the same place as the non-Jewish places. The only question is who gets paid for your blood.

It's basically a fundraiser for the organization making the drive

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2018, 07:53:54 PM »
No because I don't like to see blood. If I knew you needed my type I would give.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2018, 07:59:00 PM by avremie »

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2018, 08:26:23 PM »
Many times.

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2018, 08:45:04 PM »
Yup

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2018, 09:22:03 PM »
What happens when a Mothers life is in danger when carrying/delivering her child? I don't want to say priority so I hope you know what I am asking.
Off topic but...
The idea that a fetus is alive is not a Jewish concept. Hence valuing the mother's life over the fetus. We greatly value a fetus as close to life but it is not considered alive. There are many circumstances, depending on the legal authority, where terminating the pregnancy is allowed and sometimes even advised. It is not murder. Period.

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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2018, 09:42:59 PM »
Off topic but...
The idea that a fetus is alive is not a Jewish concept. Hence valuing the mother's life over the fetus. We greatly value a fetus as close to life but it is not considered alive. There are many circumstances, depending on the legal authority, where terminating the pregnancy is allowed and sometimes even advised. It is not murder. Period.
Um, ok, I'm not really sure exactly where you got that from. AFAIK we consider a fetus to be alive from a certain time period after conception, it has different halachos than a born human being but nothing to do with it not being alive. The reason we save the mother over the baby is because we consider the child to be a rodef with regards to the mother. I really didn't want to get into this kind of discussion here but I think you're very much mistaken and what you said could be taken in a very different way than you perhaps intended.
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2018, 09:52:07 PM »
Both part right part wrong. Also depends on 2 answer in tosfos. Full stop.
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2018, 09:55:19 PM »
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2018, 10:14:37 PM »
I agree.
Not so easy. So abortion is ok?
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2018, 10:16:39 PM »
Not so easy. So abortion is ok?
No, the way we view all the different aspects of this at all the various stages is complicated and I don't know nearly enough to get into a discussion about it. That's the last thing I'm going to say on the matter.
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2018, 10:16:39 PM »
Not so easy. So abortion is ok?
No in vast majority of cases
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2018, 10:19:09 PM »
No in vast majority of cases
Possible to give examples both ways?
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2018, 10:24:04 PM »
Possible to give examples both ways?
Not the proper forum and even if I was asked about an actual case I would refer them to my teachers. It is very complex. Basic rule is no.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2018, 10:27:23 PM by aygart »
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2018, 10:27:13 PM »
Can you comment when a fetus is considered a life?
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Re: Are you a blood donor?
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2018, 10:29:00 PM »
Can you comment when a fetus is considered a life?
The answer is sort of. Non Jews are more strict regarding a fetus than Jews, but both pretty strict.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2018, 10:35:28 PM by aygart »
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