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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #135 on: February 23, 2018, 11:47:18 AM »

When bullying happens, there becomes somewhat a mob mentality.  So other, non-true-bullies, join in to torment the victim.  'Bullying awareness' helps stop the ganging up part of it. 
https://www.stopbullying.gov/

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #136 on: February 23, 2018, 11:47:25 AM »
Did you see any thin skin?
A. I'm still here.
B. My main opinion is, kids aren't tought to fight back thereby developing thin skin.

its not so easy for every kid to fight back especially if it is not physical bullying

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #137 on: February 23, 2018, 11:48:16 AM »
its not so easy for every kid to fight back especially if it is not physical bullying
That's because they aren't taught to be able to
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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #138 on: February 23, 2018, 11:49:35 AM »
When bullying happens, there becomes somewhat a mob mentality.  So other, non-true-bullies, join in to torment the victim.  'Bullying awareness' helps stop the ganging up part of it. 
https://www.stopbullying.gov/
This was so true when I was growing up.
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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #139 on: February 23, 2018, 11:49:57 AM »
Did you see any thin skin?
A. I'm still here.
B. My main opinion is, kids aren't tought to fight back thereby developing thin skin.

Standing up to a bully can help but can also feed the bully. Also, if you stand up to him and lose the child will feel even more hopeless and will get bullied even more and other kids will also view him a loser.

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #140 on: February 23, 2018, 11:50:53 AM »
Standing up to a bully can help but can also feed the bully. Also, if you stand up to him and lose the child will feel even more hopeless and will get bullied even more and other kids will also view him a loser.
That's where Krav Mega comes in.
And you don't feed a weak person, if you hurt him.
I'll tell you later

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #141 on: February 23, 2018, 11:51:07 AM »
This was so true when I was growing up.

Every kid is scared and fears becoming next victim if they dont join in (or do nothing)

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #142 on: February 23, 2018, 12:01:53 PM »
As a child my experience is extremely relevant.
But your understanding of it is not. You simply do not have the tools to understand everything just yet.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #143 on: February 23, 2018, 12:03:29 PM »
But your understanding of it is not. You simply do not have the tools to understand everything just yet.
Be more specific, argue with arguments, not people.
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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #144 on: February 23, 2018, 12:07:43 PM »
You simply do not have the tools to understand everything just yet.
Going to have to plagiarize this one. Will come in handy in so many threads!!!  :P
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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #145 on: February 23, 2018, 12:08:19 PM »
Be more specific, argue with arguments, not people.
Just like there are aspects about Judaism which CM can't fully understand and there are aspects of Catholicism that you and I cannot understand, so to there are aspects of parenting which you cannot understand and there are aspects of growing up today that I cannot understand. Face teh reality of it.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used to start a religious discussion.

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #146 on: February 23, 2018, 12:08:42 PM »
Be more specific, argue with arguments, not people.
What are we arguing about? Other than that you have no experience raising kids and that somehow your experience as a child is relevant.
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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #147 on: February 23, 2018, 12:10:06 PM »
How in the world does a 11 year old know about suicide?? This is heartbreaking.

What triggers someone to commit suicide?

There is a Netflix show that glorifies suicide. We are allowing our children to sit in front of iPads with unfettered access to thousands upon thousands of movies and shows. We allow them access to Facebook and Instagram, following people who can expose them to anything and everything. Meanwhile, we make fun of people who go to "internet asifas" as being backwards.

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #148 on: February 23, 2018, 12:10:48 PM »
Just like there are aspects about Judaism which CM can't fully understand and there are aspects of Catholicism that you and I cannot understand, so to there are aspects of parenting which you cannot understand and there are aspects of growing up today that I cannot understand. Face teh reality of it.
That much I agree, but as you said there are aspects of growing up you will not understand.
Therefore I am qualified for this argument, and like I said if you disagree argue with an argument, not a person.
I'll tell you later

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Re: BDE 11 year old frum boy commits suicide
« Reply #149 on: February 23, 2018, 12:11:04 PM »
100% agree and we don't even know if this boy had social media
just saying that it is a factor in todays problem

aslo at certain ages it is hard to keep kids away from the technology in todays world.
+1. I'd be surprised if this kid and his classmates were all on social media at 11. And if they were, whatever part it may have contributed to this tragedy is definitely on all of the parents - no matter how hard one might think keeping them away from it is.