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Offline ChaimMoskowitz

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2018, 05:36:24 PM »
i think you should rename all the threads you started problems with judaism #1 , #2  #3 etc. etc.
That would be extremely helpful for me.  :)
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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2018, 05:41:43 PM »
No I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  It could as well indicate that the ou made a typo.


You are not, because you do not have enough knowledge in the field.
You also fail to answer a simple question of mine

One question Mr. confused, Once it is explained to you will it make sense?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2018, 05:47:45 PM »
That explains some of this. If your source of information leaves open the possibility to deny one of the ikrim then we get the language used to begin this thread.

I have no idea how you got that. And with all the hard time you give me, you slander a noted dayan? 

I stated very clearly what his reply was. Use your intellect to process it.

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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2018, 05:49:27 PM »
You are not, because you do not have enough knowledge in the field.
You also fail to answer a simple question of mine

I can still say it doesn't make sense.

Rambam says in the intro that Chaggai was part of the Anshei Knesset HaGedolah and that the last surviving member was Shimon HaTzadik (not Chaggai)

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2018, 05:50:20 PM »
That would be extremely helpful for me.  :)

Maybe you want to switch user names so we can confuse them?

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2018, 05:55:43 PM »
Maybe you want to switch user names so we can confuse them?
I think that has a lot do with what goes on around here.  :)
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2018, 05:59:32 PM »
The Gemara clearly states that Rabbi Pereidah lived 400 years. You may want to take issue with the Gemara as well. And since we are close to Purim, Rashi says that Mordechai was on the Sanhedrin during the first Bais Hamikdash, was in the story of Purim, and was still a leader of Klal Yisrael during the seige of Hyrcanus and Aristobulus, during Rome’s ascendency when he would be well over 400 years old...

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2018, 06:00:55 PM »
Guys, why are you even participating here?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2018, 06:01:40 PM »
Guys, why are you even participating here?
I learned a couple of things.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2018, 06:03:33 PM »
Can we get this thread deleted? Do I really have to read borderline kfira on ddf?

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2018, 06:09:39 PM »
I learned a couple of things.
You need to unlearn what you have learned. There is very little if anything at all here in way of real information.
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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2018, 06:09:57 PM »
I can still say it doesn't make sense.

Rambam says in the intro that Chaggai was part of the Anshei Knesset HaGedolah and that the last surviving member was Shimon HaTzadik (not Chaggai)
For the hundredth time, you have an issue with what Rambam says.

1. You would like to understand what he says.
2. In your mind such a statement does not make sense based on your life experience and knowledge of how long people generally live.
3. You translate your minds inability to reconcile what your experience is, with what Rambam says, into a statement about Torah "stuff" that doesnt make sense.
4. That statement is patently offensive to any bnei torah.
5. You are lectured about the inappropriateness of the statement based on you conflating your inability to make sense, with your inability to understand.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2018, 06:20:38 PM »
@chevron You say:

First off rabbi Eily Smith is a respected rabbi and Dayan in Miami.

Yet you also write:
To quote Rabbi Eily Smith "you either believe in nevuah or you don't.

Which (IINM) most around here would find an extremely problematic statement. So you might be the one engaged in Loshon Hora here (against Rabbi Smith).

In any event, I think you should find a way to read comments, even those responding, arguing or refuting your statements, and not take them as attacks.

So let's try to simplify your issue/question in your OP: When it is stated that someone lived a few hundred years, does it not make sense to you? Why? Is it in all cases? Only after a certain period? What length of lifespan is it that starts to become "it doesn't make sense" (which sounds like a blanket statement as if there's a problem with the statement of fact) versus "I can't understand it" (which is a personal questioning of the stated facts which seem to contradict your understandings otherwise)?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #119 on: February 25, 2018, 06:24:55 PM »
Halevai only @ChaimMoskowitz understands.

The question was not philosophical or theological..it simply doesnt make sense. For reasons that abound. thanks @cmey i'll look that up.

Regarding how I phase my statements is y business, you could be more open minded and engage @TimT  @Mordyk

I got into this discussion because inyan has an article about Rav Yakov Sapir, in which he says he entered the cairo geniza and found supposedly the sefer tora of ezra hasofer. Which is confusing because no later visitors mention it
Why was i quoted here?