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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #580 on: June 25, 2022, 03:10:49 PM »
That's arguable. There's plenty of evidence the minhag in America was to publish. That changed.
What evidence?

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #581 on: June 25, 2022, 03:29:56 PM »
This letter from Rav Elyashiv is regarding the Hebrew Mishpacha newspaper. Different owner, different format, and IDK if they have anything to do with English one besides sharing a name.

same owner. same agenda. it in the interview.
again, its worth it to take an hour or 2 off to understand the agenda of the owner of one of the biggest weekly's in the Jewish world.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #582 on: June 25, 2022, 10:32:14 PM »
This entire conversation is:

"Anything to the right of me is religious extremism, and anything to the left is modern anti-Torah."

The Mishpacha is very open that they're trying to be Hareidi middle/centrist (e.g. the Eli Paley interview that @Moshe Green wants everyone to listen to) - and I didn't see anything here that shows otherwise. Eli Paley learned in Chevron - this is who they are; no one is going to argue that Chevroners are anti-Torah.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #583 on: June 25, 2022, 10:36:56 PM »
no one is going to argue that Chevroners are anti-Torah.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #584 on: June 25, 2022, 10:43:58 PM »
:o
Ok fine, you're right that contradicts the first part of my post :)

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #585 on: June 26, 2022, 12:46:30 AM »
This entire conversation is:

"Anything to the right of me is religious extremism, and anything to the left is modern anti-Torah."

The Mishpacha is very open that they're trying to be Hareidi middle/centrist (e.g. the Eli Paley interview that @Moshe Green wants everyone to listen to) - and I didn't see anything here that shows otherwise. Eli Paley learned in Chevron - this is who they are; no one is going to argue that Chevroners are anti-Torah.

Learnt in Chevroner doesn't equal Chevroner. Not every person who passed through an institution is a proper representation of their philosophies and values. It's a massive place.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #586 on: June 26, 2022, 06:05:02 AM »
This entire conversation is:
"Anything to the right of me is religious extremism, and anything to the left is modern anti-Torah."

i haven't heard anyone say that even once. please give examples. the only thing i've seen hear is that people want to call out the Mishpacha for pushing left with agendas that go against the mainstream Chareidi way but pretend that they are the voice of Chareidi Judaism.

Eli Paley learned in Chevron - this is who they are; no one is going to argue that Chevroners are anti-Torah.

Many Apikorsim and Reshaim were products of the greatest Yeshivos. People go off for many reasons; fame, fortune, honor, jealousy... just look now at the Israeli government. A good number of the MK's that are sitting now with people who want to destroy Israel and Judaism learned in Yeshivot that taught the exact opposite.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #587 on: June 26, 2022, 09:20:44 AM »
i haven't heard anyone say that even once. please give examples. the only thing i've seen hear is that people want to call out the Mishpacha for pushing left with agendas that go against the mainstream Chareidi way but pretend that they are the voice of Chareidi Judaism.


You called it anti Torah here
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=91185.msg2597981#msg2597981

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #588 on: July 03, 2022, 01:42:23 AM »
Not sure if this is really a hashkafa question or more like a halacha question:
@Dan  has posted why price mistakes etc aren't a halachik shaila of stealing etc.
Has anyone gotten a hetter for making business credit cards for "businesses" that don't really exist ? Or that earn 10k and you writing 100k? Same with personal cards and writing random income amounts? Many other similar shailos that I won't list now,  but I am trying to understand if this is not all a טעות עכום which is אסור if you are causing it...
Please share if you have any legit insight. Thanks

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #589 on: July 03, 2022, 03:43:19 AM »
Not sure if this is really a hashkafa question or more like a halacha question:
@Dan  has posted why price mistakes etc aren't a halachik shaila of stealing etc.
Has anyone gotten a hetter for making business credit cards for "businesses" that don't really exist ? Or that earn 10k and you writing 100k? Same with personal cards and writing random income amounts? Many other similar shailos that I won't list now,  but I am trying to understand if this is not all a טעות עכום which is אסור if you are causing it...
Please share if you have any legit insight. Thanks

Business card as sole proprietorship is same as personal card on your SSN from bank and credit risk profile perspective.

If you are 21 or older, you can legally put any income theoretically accessible to you that can be used for the repayment of the CC debt. For many, household and supportive familial and associate income is way above whatever number they put in the income box.

From an ethical perspective, price mistakes are way more ethically fraught, in my opinion.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #590 on: July 03, 2022, 07:12:03 AM »
Business card as sole proprietorship is same as personal card on your SSN from bank and credit risk profile perspective.
Why is declaring yourself a sole proprietor of a business (when you aren't) not considered lying/stealing?

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #591 on: July 03, 2022, 07:49:27 AM »
Not sure if this is really a hashkafa question or more like a halacha question:
@Dan  has posted why price mistakes etc aren't a halachik shaila of stealing etc.
Has anyone gotten a hetter for making business credit cards for "businesses" that don't really exist ? Or that earn 10k and you writing 100k? Same with personal cards and writing random income amounts? Many other similar shailos that I won't list now,  but I am trying to understand if this is not all a טעות עכום which is אסור if you are causing it...
Please share if you have any legit insight. Thanks
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12784.0

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #592 on: July 03, 2022, 10:18:22 AM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12784.0
Thank you. Got up to page 4 of 55
Hope I get an answer before I get to page 55

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #593 on: July 03, 2022, 04:37:02 PM »
Up to page 10 and see that it's a pretty useless thread.
If anyone has any Torah /halacha perspective on my question I would appreciate it .. thank you

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #594 on: July 04, 2022, 11:39:21 PM »
to improve the question, define what you are taking, why taking that is wrong, and what the direct relationship of the lie to the taking

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #595 on: July 11, 2022, 08:34:45 PM »

And since I was blessed with a daughter, I've seen the ill effects of hiding women and girls first hand and it is infuriating. My daughter reads anything she can get her hands on, and without hearing a word from me or my wife, she gets upset and utterly confused about not being represented. Just a few examples that SHE brought up:


I guess it's nothing to do with frum publishing. We were driving past road works the other day and she got upset about the caution signs that said "Men Working".

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #596 on: July 11, 2022, 08:44:10 PM »
Without answering for him personally, it has been reported previously on DDF that the Lubavitcher Rebbe felt it was important to include girls in publications.
Not sure if that is accurate. Everyone repeats that the rebbe wanted that there be a boy and girl on Tzivos Hashem publication (banner/magazine), but fail to mention that this was drawings and not actual photos. Someone (in Australia IINM) made a kriah book and was instructed by the Rebbe not to have boys mad girls (drawing) on the same page (this was in the news recently because of the kriah controversy).

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #597 on: July 11, 2022, 08:47:45 PM »
I guess it's nothing to do with frum publishing. We were driving past road works the other day and she got upset about the caution signs that said "Men Working".
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #598 on: July 11, 2022, 08:56:17 PM »
I guess it's nothing to do with frum publishing. We were driving past road works the other day and she got upset about the caution signs that said "Men Working".
Wow a real feminist! I guess your mail gets delivered by a mailperson, your trash picked up by a garbage person (or more likely a sanitation engineer) and your fires put out by a fireperson.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #599 on: July 11, 2022, 11:21:15 PM »
[...] in the news recently because of the kriah controversy).

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