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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #90 on: February 25, 2018, 05:09:08 PM »
I'm engaged in constructive criticism and questioning what either makes no sense or I don't understand.
Who died and left you in charge, so to speak. Constructive or not it is still bible criticism.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2018, 05:10:48 PM »
I'm engaged in constructive criticism and questioning what either makes no sense or I don't understand.
im not sure what it means to be engaged in constructive criticism of the torah. seems like along the way that if i would have written it it would have been much better
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #92 on: February 25, 2018, 05:11:35 PM »
I bought and read a good part of that book based on the recommendations of Rabbi Wein who states that the book has value, but not all of it. Rabbi Wein discounts most of the pre-biblical part of the book.

And again, you dont understand the Torah because a historian wrote something? If that is the case we are dealing with Bible criticism here and lets be clear and honest about that. Most here dont want to engage in any discussion. Go find DovBear in a google search and you will be in good company.

What in god's good name are you talking about?!?  Where did I engage in biblical criticism?!?!?

I said I discussed the subject iwith rabbi Eily Smith and he said "either you believe in nevua, or you dont"

My question Was about something the rambam wrote.. I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  You can try to help me make sense of it or you can bash me, I don't care

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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2018, 05:12:50 PM »
What in god's good name are you talking about?!?  Where did I engage in biblical criticism?!?!?

I said I discussed the subject iwith rabbi Eily Smith and he said "either you believe in nevua, or you dont"

My question Was about something the rambam wrote.. I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  You can try to help me make sense of it or you can bash me, I don't care

One question Mr. confused, Once it is explain to you will it make sense?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2018, 05:17:16 PM »
No, you're just engaged in lashon hara and slander against me.. I don't do any of those things.
You do it all the time. Iím being moicha. You wanna take potshots on others ? Donít cry when others respond in kind. Or just take all this as ďconstructive criticism ď

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2018, 05:17:37 PM »
BTW Iím not the one bashing klal yisroel & disrespecting torah/halacha all the time. Thatís somebody else

Ugh I didn't say I was involved in constructive biblical criticism. I meant to quote that. I meant constructive criticism of klal yisrael.

Well I tried the berditchiver route. . Till the talking in shull got too much.

Oh yeah I'm still bitter I got yanked out of school and sent home middle of the day because my parents were behind oonon tttuition... Chinuch Al taharas hhakodesh eh.


I'm entitled to criticize wrongs just as much as the next guy. But I'm not a failed Messiah douche blogger. God and Judaism didn't fail me.. I'm just picking at the flaws of the system and humanity.



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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2018, 05:19:24 PM »
I'm just picking at the flaws of the system and humanity.
Please explain system....

I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.
No you are not little guy, Your entitled to say I dont understand the Rambam.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2018, 05:20:10 PM »
What in god's good name are you talking about?!?  Where did I engage in biblical criticism?!?!?

I said I discussed the subject iwith rabbi Eily Smith and he said "either you believe in nevua, or you dont"

My question Was about something the rambam wrote.. I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  You can try to help me make sense of it or you can bash me, I don't care
The title of the thread. And you brought up Johnson to prove what point? Who is this Rabbi Smith? Who is he to say you believe in nevuah or not?  Again, youre taking what the Rambam said at fave value but ignoring another one of the ikrim. Its amazing, 3 out of 13 so far. Keep this up and we may knock out all of them before the day is up and still have the original question, based on...the Rambam's opinion.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2018, 05:20:25 PM »
You do it all the time. Iím being moicha. You wanna take potshots on others ? Donít cry when others respond in kind. Or just take all this as ďconstructive criticism ď

No, I actually held my peace. I didn't even mention the busha and hurt I suffered from what this yeshiva did to me 25 years ago.. Only brought it up with the recent suicide case.


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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2018, 05:24:51 PM »
But I'm not a failed Messiah douche blogger.
Thanks for pointing that out. Was beginning to wonder

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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2018, 05:27:09 PM »
i think you should rename all the threads you started problems with judaism #1 , #2  #3 etc. etc. 
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2018, 05:27:39 PM »
The title of the thread. And you brought up Johnson to prove what point? Who is this Rabbi Smith? Who is he to say you believe in nevuah or not?  Again, youre taking what the Rambam said at fave value but ignoring another one of the ikrim. Its amazing, 3 out of 13 so far. Keep this up and we may knock out all of them before the day is up and still have the original question, based on...the Rambam's opinion.

I don't even know why you aarare repeatedly being hostile. I never said or implied any of that.

First off rabbi Eily Smith is a respected rabbi and Dayan in Miami.

Second off, I brought up Johnson because he indicates that based on what Daniel wrote, it would make him having lived in macabbee times, so what?  I never said I don't believe in nevua. I asked his opinion and he said what I wrote.. I.e. if you believe in nevua, its not trouble to understand and accept it.

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Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2018, 05:29:20 PM »
Please explain system....
No you are not little guy, Your entitled to say I dont understand the Rambam.

No I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  It could as well indicate that the ou made a typo.


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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2018, 05:30:46 PM »
I don't even know why you aarare repeatedly being hostile. I never said or implied any of that.

First off rabbi Eily Smith is a respected rabbi and Dayan in Miami.

Second off, I brought up Johnson because he indicates that based on what Daniel wrote, it would make him having lived in macabbee times, so what?  I never said I don't believe in nevua. I asked his opinion and he said what I wrote.. I.e. if you believe in nevua, its not trouble to understand and accept it.
That explains some of this. If your source of information leaves open the possibility to deny one of the ikrim then we get the language used to begin this thread.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2018, 05:33:48 PM »
No, you're just engaged in lashon hara and slander against me.. I don't do any of those things.
Iím quickly reading thru this thread and Iím not so sure there is an issue of lashon hara and slander against you, but Iím not a poisek