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DavidRotts63 Cant figure Out why this thread title changes
« Reply #240 on: February 27, 2018, 07:36:25 PM »
Ok let’s take a look. I am aware that Catholics don’t view it that way. Many other denominations do...
Rather than linking to many sources that definitely don’t belong on this forum here’s a few simple quotes from Wikipedia:

“The manufacture of images of J, the Virgin Mary and Christian saints, along with prayers directed to these has been widespread among the Catholic faithful”.[73]

   
“The idolatry debate has been one of the defining differences between Papal Catholicism and Anti-papal Protestantism.[74] The anti-papal writers have prominently questioned the worship practices and images supported by Catholics, with many Protestant scholars listing it as the "one religious error larger than all others". The sub-list of erring practices have included among other things Mariolatry or the worship of Virgin Mary as a form of idolatry, the Catholic mass, the invocation of saints, and the reverence expected for and expressed to Pope himself.[74] The charges of idolatry against the Roman Catholics were leveled by a diverse group of Protestants, from the Church of England to John Calvin in Geneva.[74][75]”



“Protestants often accuse Catholics of idolatry, iconolatry, and even paganism for failing to "cleanse their faith" of the use of images; in the Protestant Reformation such language was common to all Protestants. In some cases, such as the Puritan groups denounced all forms of religious objects, whether in three-dimensional or two-dimensional form, including the Christian cross.[77]”


“The Eucharist in the Catholic Church is the celebration of Mass, the eucharistic liturgy. The term Eucharist is also used for the bread and wine when transubstantiated (their substance having been changed), according to Catholic teaching, into the body and blood of J. "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, -instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood."[1]”

Blessed Sacrament is a devotional term used in the Roman Catholic Church to refer to the eucharistic species (the Body and Blood of -).[2] Consecrated hosts are kept in a tabernacle after Mass, so that the Blessed Sacrament can be brought to the sick and dying outside the time of Mass. This makes possible also the practice of eucharistic adoration.

Adoration is a sign of devotion to and worship of J, who is believed by Catholics to be present Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, under the appearance of the consecrated host, that is, sacramental bread. From a theological perspective, the adoration is a form of latria (internal worship) , based on the tenet of the real presence of - in the -.[1]
Umm, is it me or is DDF not the place to be exposing temimusdig, kodosh v'tahor, DDF readers to Trinity theology.
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #241 on: February 27, 2018, 07:37:32 PM »
For some reason when I get a notification it comes up different each time.
"how did chaggai live so long if he isn't mentioned?"
"Torah stuff I don't understand"
Who's trolling me like that???
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Re: How does it make sense that Chaggai lived for so long but isn't mentioned?
« Reply #242 on: February 27, 2018, 07:37:58 PM »
Would it fair for me post how some Muslims view Judaism?
The ones hiding behind the box tree or the dhimmi?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #243 on: February 27, 2018, 07:38:53 PM »
Who's trolling me like that???
Was just showing you how its done. And HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A TROLL. YOURE THE KING OF TROLLS.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #244 on: February 27, 2018, 07:39:59 PM »
Was just showing you how its done. And HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A TROLL. YOURE THE KING OF TROLLS.  ;D ;D
What?? How did you do that?
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« Reply #245 on: February 27, 2018, 07:42:26 PM »
What?? How did you do that?
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« Reply #246 on: February 27, 2018, 07:44:47 PM »
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Re: How does it make sense that Chaggai lived for so long but isn't mentioned?
« Reply #247 on: February 27, 2018, 07:46:04 PM »
Would it fair for me post how some Muslims view Judaism?
?????
Chevron made a statement that there is definitely no idolatry in Christianity. I responded that that is subject to debate. Indeed a good part of the worlds Christians do consider it to be idolatry. I have no personal opinion on the matter since I am not a catholic or a Protestant....

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« Reply #248 on: February 27, 2018, 07:49:21 PM »
God! I love this.
No mentioning the Diety, please. DDF is not the place. Its a cesspool v'chulhu v'chulhu
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Re: DavidRotts63 Cant figure Out why this thread title changes
« Reply #249 on: February 27, 2018, 07:49:28 PM »
Umm, is it me or is DDF not the place to be exposing temimusdig, kodosh v'tahor, DDF readers to Trinity theology.

Just commenting on chevrons assumption as well as taking the comparative religion discussion that was going on to the next level...

I don’t think this entire thread should be on DDF

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Re: How does it make sense that Chaggai lived for so long but isn't mentioned?
« Reply #250 on: February 27, 2018, 07:50:03 PM »
?????
Chevron made a statement that there is definitely no idolatry in Christianity. I responded that that is subject to debate. Indeed a good part of the worlds Christians do consider it to be idolatry. I have no personal opinion on the matter since I am not a catholic or a Protestant....
You seem to have many opinions...
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Re: How does it make sense that Chaggai lived for so long but isn't mentioned?
« Reply #251 on: February 27, 2018, 07:52:23 PM »
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Chevron made a statement that there is definitely no idolatry in Christianity. I responded that that is subject to debate. Indeed a good part of the worlds Christians do consider it to be idolatry. I have no personal opinion on the matter since I am not a catholic or a Protestant....
Many parts of the world believe the blood libel stories among others. Do you see me posting that BS then hiding behind "I have no personal opinion on the matter since I am not Jewish"?
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Re: DavidRotts63 Cant figure Out why this thread title changes
« Reply #252 on: February 27, 2018, 07:52:36 PM »

I don’t think this entire thread should be on DDF
You have still not made a coherent argument why it should not be here. You dont like comparative religion...thats not what this was. There were some serious emunah questions raised. Is that something that you're uncomfortable with? Why doesnt it belong here?
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #253 on: February 27, 2018, 07:56:42 PM »
I think we need @aygart  :)
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Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« Reply #254 on: February 27, 2018, 07:57:52 PM »
I think we need @aygart  :)
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