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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #380 on: March 22, 2018, 10:48:03 PM »
Is that regular english for skimmed?  ;)
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #381 on: March 25, 2018, 08:03:33 AM »
Do miracles really happen?

"No. 11 Loyola's unbelievable run with Sister Jean at the spiritual helm, there's been no shortage of surprises this year."
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #382 on: March 25, 2018, 08:47:37 AM »
Do miracles really happen?

"No. 11 Loyola's unbelievable run with Sister Jean at the spiritual helm, there's been no shortage of surprises this year."
Why cant they just be a team on a good run? Why the need to attribute it to miracles or Sister Jean? Are people so desperate for comfort from their miserable lives that they need to see miracles in a basketball game?

By extension, was Cinderella a miracle story? Disney sure aint anywhere near my version of a deity.     
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #383 on: March 25, 2018, 09:06:12 AM »
Why cant they just be a team on a good run? Why the need to attribute it to miracles or Sister Jean? Are people so desperate for comfort from their miserable lives that they need to see miracles in a basketball game?

By extension, was Cinderella a miracle story? Disney sure aint anywhere near my version of a deity.   
Miracles can't happen in sports. Is there a list somewhere where miracles are only acceptable?
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #384 on: March 25, 2018, 09:11:24 AM »
Miracles can't happen in sports. Is there a list somewhere where miracles are only acceptable?
The way I understand miracles, they're kind of reserved for real life issues, not to make sports fanatics' dreams come true. 
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #385 on: March 25, 2018, 09:16:22 AM »
The way I understand miracles, they're kind of reserved for real life issues, not to make sports fanatics' dreams come true.
That's an interesting take on miracles.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #386 on: March 25, 2018, 09:22:49 AM »

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #387 on: March 25, 2018, 09:24:25 AM »
That's an interesting take on miracles.
Unless you are referring to coincidence or happenstance as miracles, this wining streak, from a religious perspective really has no place in the realm of miracles.   
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #388 on: March 25, 2018, 09:45:27 AM »
The way I understand miracles, they're kind of reserved for real life issues, not to make sports fanatics' dreams come true.

what if some person is so desperate in his life and is about to give up. bet all his money on them as one last shot... Is that a real life issue?

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #389 on: March 25, 2018, 09:53:22 AM »
what if some person is so desperate in his life and is about to give up. bet all his money on them as one last shot... Is that a real life issue?
For sure, but not one that requires a miracle. That requires an interventions. I may know someone who can help with that.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #390 on: March 25, 2018, 09:56:26 AM »
For sure, but not one that requires a miracle. That requires an interventions. I may know someone who can help with that.
...but what if he wins and it saves his life?. Can it be because of a miracle?
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #391 on: March 25, 2018, 09:59:31 AM »
Unless you are referring to coincidence or happenstance as miracles, this wining streak, from a religious perspective really has no place in the realm of miracles.   
AFAIK he is a כל יכול no rules dictate when he does what.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #392 on: March 25, 2018, 10:18:51 AM »
...but what if he wins and it saves his life?. Can it be because of a miracle?
My position on this is very clear you know it.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #393 on: March 25, 2018, 10:23:46 AM »
AFAIK he is a כל יכול no rules dictate when he does what.
Of course he can the question is why would he
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #394 on: March 25, 2018, 10:25:29 AM »
Of course he can the question is why would he
So now it's OK to question what G-ds reasoning behind his decisions are?
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #395 on: March 25, 2018, 11:05:31 AM »
So now it's OK to question what G-ds reasoning behind his decisions are?
First of all, you can always question. You may not get satisfactory answers.

Secondly, what about this story makes it a miracle?
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #396 on: March 25, 2018, 11:06:39 AM »
First of all, you can always question. You may not get satisfactory answers.

Secondly, what about this story makes it a miracle?
You can question, but you can't deny that he may wish to do something

And no, I do not think this is a miracle I was asking in general
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #397 on: March 25, 2018, 11:12:00 AM »
You can question, but you can't deny that he may wish to do something

And no, I do not think this is a miracle I was asking in general
Who is denying? And again, why would he? If its to help the poor lad who bet all his money on this, I can hear it. But, thats really a stretch.
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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #398 on: March 25, 2018, 11:14:28 AM »
Who is denying? And again, why would he? If its to help the poor lad who bet all his money on this, I can hear it. But, thats really a stretch.
My questioning was on this only.

The way I understand miracles, they're kind of reserved for real life issues, not to make sports fanatics' dreams come true.

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Re: Torah & Hashkafa Questions (PC Free For All)
« Reply #399 on: March 25, 2018, 11:21:25 AM »
My questioning was on this only.
And my response remains the same, possible, not probable.
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