Author Topic: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?  (Read 3442 times)

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What exactly is the difference between each of them as it relates specifically to the post-Shechita examination of the animalís lungs? I think that Bais Yosef insists that the lungs be completely smooth with no possibility of a hole which would render the animal Trief; Glatt Kosher is ok with a scab on the lungs so long as it is removed and then no hole is found; and Kosher is also ok with a scab without  trying to remove it. Is that correct?
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2018, 09:36:07 PM »
well its a big and much written about sugya. shulchan aruch yoreh deah siman 39 seif 10 IIRC and see Pischei tshuva there. to start. see aruch hshulchan there too.

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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2018, 09:51:44 PM »
With all due respect I asked a Yes or No question.
With all due respect not everything can be simplified to a yes or no.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2018, 10:13:10 PM »
So, in other words, you guys donít really know whether my simplified description of the difference between the 3 levels of shechita kashrus is correct or not. Or itís an inside elitist secret that the general public who have not studied all those authorities cited are not worthy of knowing.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2018, 10:20:32 PM »
So, in other words, you guys donít really know whether my simplified description of the difference between the 3 levels of shechita kashrus is correct or not. Or itís an inside elitist secret that the general public who have not studied all those authorities cited are not worthy of knowing.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2018, 10:22:44 PM »


So, in other words, you guys donít really know whether my simplified description of the difference between the 3 levels of shechita kashrus is correct or not. Or itís an inside elitist secret that the general public who have not studied all those authorities cited are not worthy of knowing.

I'm going with "inside elitist secret" on this one. Can we get a poll?

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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2018, 10:22:47 PM »
So, in other words, you guys donít really know whether my simplified description of the difference between the 3 levels of shechita kashrus is correct or not. Or itís an inside elitist secret that the general public who have not studied all those authorities cited are not worthy of knowing.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2018, 10:23:31 PM »
So, in other words, you guys donít really know whether my simplified description of the difference between the 3 levels of shechita kashrus is correct or not. Or itís an inside elitist secret that the general public who have not studied all those authorities cited are not worthy of knowing.
Why the animosity? If you really want to know the intricacies of the halacha and aren't just trolling, go ask someone qualified to answer in person. I think it's ridiculous when people ask loaded halachic questions on an anonymous online forum and then get upset about the lack of good answers. Get a life.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2018, 10:25:11 PM »
Isn't there already a thread that this belongs in?

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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 10:39:39 PM »
What exactly is the difference between each of them as it relates specifically to the post-Shechita examination of the animalís lungs? I think that Bais Yosef insists that the lungs be completely smooth with no possibility of a hole which would render the animal Trief; Glatt Kosher is ok with a scab on the lungs so long as it is removed and then no hole is found; and Kosher is also ok with a scab without  trying to remove it. Is that correct?
1) Glatt no scabs at all
2) kosher, has some scabs,but these have been skillfully analyzed and tested to ascertain that they do not render the cow traif
3) Glatt Beis Yosef, means same as number 1, just restricted to less areas of the lungs that would be problematic according to ramo.

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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2018, 10:41:09 PM »
Isn't there already a thread that this belongs in?
Naturally

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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2018, 10:51:45 PM »
Have you heard of the story of הלל and כל התורה על רגל אחת?
Was that for only a one word answer? Don't leave out the last part. Zil gmor.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2018, 10:52:54 PM »
1) Glatt no scabs at all
2) kosher, has some scabs,but these have been skillfully analyzed and tested to ascertain that they do not render the cow traif
3) Glatt Beis Yosef, means same as number 1, just restricted to less areas of the lungs that would be problematic according to ramo.
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Re: Whatís the difference between Kosher, Glatt Kosher, Bais Yosef?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2018, 10:55:05 PM »
You need to define the difference between a rir and a sircha then you need to settle which cases of a rir did the B"Y agree were glatt and which ones were only glatt lfi the Rema.....etc....
Everything stated above is a gross over simplification.
Kind of like asking if the docs on DDF can describe all the different approaches to curing lung cancer in a DDF post....