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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2018, 03:32:18 PM »
Made 2 purchases today at small businesses with amex , both for small amounts, and both required signatures...
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2018, 03:35:04 PM »
Made 2 purchases today at small businesses with amex , both for small amounts, and both required signatures...
I think it'll take time for all the systems to update
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2018, 03:58:41 PM »
no source listed, but according to http://www.wndu.com/content/news/Credit-card-companies-soon-wont-require-signatures-478636673.html it goes into effect in 2

ETA: USA today says 4/14 as well
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2018/03/30/credit-card-companies-you-can-soon-skip-signing-receipts-most-card-purchases/472380002/

As per amex:

http://about.americanexpress.com/news/pr/2017/amex-eliminates-signature-requirement-worldwide.aspx

"Once this change takes effect in April 2018, merchants will still have the option to collect Card Members’ signatures at the point of sale if they choose to do so, and must continue to collect signatures if they are required to do so by applicable law in a particular jurisdiction."

Rest assured your local jewish small business will continue collecting signatures in an effort to make your shopping experience as frustrating as possible.
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2018, 04:03:42 PM »
Made 2 purchases today at small businesses with amex , both for small amounts, and both required signatures...
it seems it's still optional for the business.  Was the purchase less than $50

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 04:13:20 PM »
Canada stopped this years ago 😂

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 04:15:46 PM »
Canada stopped this years ago
That's because they have the pin instead which takes longer.

American cards still need to sign.

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 04:16:56 PM »


in an effort to make your shopping experience as frustrating as possible.
Sure, that's what all vendors aim to do.

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 04:19:16 PM »
Sure, that's what all vendors aim to do.
Have you not shipped at Jewish businesses, especially in Boro Park? No returns, fees for cc, crap cs. But feel free to defend them simply because they share a religion with you.
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 04:24:45 PM »
Have you not shipped at Jewish businesses, especially in Boro Park? No returns, fees for cc, crap cs. But feel free to defend them simply because they share a religion with you.
Sure seems that you're frustrated I'll agree to that.

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 04:29:44 PM »
Sure seems that you're frustrated I'll agree to that.
much how you don't realize how your favorite heimishe store is treating you poorly, you are utterly failing to reach the correct conclusion.
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 04:36:02 PM »
much how you don't realize how your favorite heimishe store is treating you poorly, you are utterly failing to reach the correct conclusion.
Oh I agree that it's poor CS and potentially foolish business practice, I don't disagree with that.

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 04:39:41 PM »
Canada stopped this years ago 😂
-1 not with amex they just didn't require it if it was less then $100 and in the USA if was less than $50 it wasn't required. However now they are expanding it to all purchases both in Canada and the USA

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 09:19:50 PM »
If the chip thing didn't take 8.5 minutes to process we would be moving forward. Now I think the copy paper thing is faster

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2018, 09:24:45 PM »
If the chip thing didn't take 8.5 minutes to process we would be moving forward. Now I think the copy paper thing is faster
totally agree

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2018, 09:56:49 PM »
If the chip thing didn't take 8.5 minutes to process we would be moving forward. Now I think the copy paper thing is faster
What's with the tapping thing? When will we fully have that? Europe has it already, chips over there are practically like our magnetic strips
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2018, 10:02:12 PM »
What's with the tapping thing? When will we fully have that? Europe has it already, chips over there are practically like our magnetic strips
Don't know, but the current situation is unbelievable imho. We went from a super and easy fast swipe, to an agonizing drama. Which genius designed these things that take 13 minutes to read. (If you TOUCH your card at 12:58 minutes too soon, you start over the process and also get six dirty looks).

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2018, 10:06:33 PM »
Don't know, but the current situation is unbelievable imho. We went from a super and easy fast swipe, to an agonizing drama. Which genius designed these things that take 13 minutes to read. (If you TOUCH your card at 12:58 minutes too soon, you start over the process and also get six dirty looks).
It's still is the most secure option, since you don't pay for fraud on your card you don't care, but the credit card companies do
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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2018, 10:25:52 PM »
Don't know, but the current situation is unbelievable imho. We went from a super and easy fast swipe, to an agonizing drama. Which genius designed these things that take 13 minutes to read. (If you TOUCH your card at 12:58 minutes too soon, you start over the process and also get six dirty looks).
spot on

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Re: Bye bye to the waste of time purchase signing
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2018, 10:40:49 PM »
Where are you guys swiping? 10 seconds tops with chip.
I just found a new supply of forks!