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Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« on: April 09, 2018, 03:10:27 AM »
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It has come to our attention that much of the beer sold in New York City and surrounding counties is distributed by a Jewish owned
company, creating a significant Chometz She’avar Alav haPesach issue for our communities. Due to numerous challenges, a proper sale
of Chometz is not possible. As a result, many brands of beer in NY will be Chometz She’avar Alav haPesach. The problematic stock will
not be depleted until sometime in late-May/June. Please check our website after May 15th for an update. Until that time, the beers on the
list below should be considered Chometz She’avar Alav haPesach.
https://www.star-k.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/BeerAlertListingNY2018.pdf

http://www.kikar.co.il/273336.html
« Last Edit: April 09, 2018, 03:18:09 AM by DanH »
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 05:59:15 AM »
You should probably post the complete information....
I edited the names but the conversation is complete for context. (Aside from the pictures which I will post soon.)
If one is concerned regarding this mechira, then there are many mechiras they shouldn't be soimech on. (Possibly the C&S mentioned in the conversation. Although the Kof-K said that the whole business was sold...)
I have no idea where you got that from.  I also have no idea what the halacha is, just reposting what I found.
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2018, 06:02:11 AM »
I have no idea where you got that from.  I also have no idea what the halacha is, just reposting what I found.
conversation between several different agencies... primarily the OK and Star-K
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2018, 07:57:46 AM »
They didn't stop dealing in chometz over pesach right?

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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2018, 08:29:23 AM »
They didn't stop dealing in chometz over pesach right?
correct. There are many mechiras done this way, being soimech on a Teshiva from R' Moshe.
It's possible that they sold the business (not just the Chometz) which would be a better solution to keep operating on pesach as managers.
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2018, 08:53:58 AM »
i'm sure one of the local groceries will be importing a truckload from out of the prob area, unless they r not allowed to- in which case i'm waiting to see who's gonna pull up w a truck of out-of-town beers in front of the local minyan factory, to make some extra $$$
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2018, 09:52:33 AM »
Thrifty Beverage Center is a Beverage Distributor in NY a goiy, shouldn't be a problem.
http://thriftybeveragecenter.com/contact.php

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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2018, 10:10:05 AM »

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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2018, 10:45:23 AM »
You should probably post the complete information....
I edited the names but the conversation is complete for context. (Aside from the pictures which I will post soon.)
If one is concerned regarding this mechira, then there are many mechiras they shouldn't be soimech on. (Possibly the C&S mentioned in the conversation. Although the Kof-K said that the whole business was sold...)
IINM, most do NOT rely on C&S.
correct. There are many mechiras done this way, being soimech on a Teshiva from R' Moshe.
Isn't R' Moshe the one why was against mechira that allows them to stay open?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2018, 02:07:11 PM »
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2018, 03:02:11 PM »
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The Kashrus WhatsApp group I am a member of has been buzzing about this all day.

This is the first time I see this letter from the OK. Would be interesting to see if any of the naysayers would publish anything (pro or con) AFTER contacting the OK for details.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2018, 03:06:46 PM »
You should probably post the complete information....
I edited the names but the conversation is complete for context. (Aside from the pictures which I will post soon.)
If one is concerned regarding this mechira, then there are many mechiras they shouldn't be soimech on. (Possibly the C&S mentioned in the conversation. Although the Kof-K said that the whole business was sold...)
Interesting to read. Any additional information about Restaurant Depot?
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2018, 03:14:02 PM »
The Kashrus WhatsApp group I am a member of has been buzzing about this all day.

This is the first time I see this letter from the OK. Would be interesting to see if any of the naysayers would publish anything (pro or con) AFTER contacting the OK for details.
The Star-K link in the OP is dead, they must've removed it.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2018, 09:46:26 PM »
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Re: Beers in NY Chometz Sheavar Alav HaPesach
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2018, 09:55:47 PM »
The letter below was forwarded as מגילת ביר תשעח


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