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When I work in the garage, I keep all the doors open. Is that okay? No. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) ran a 5.5 horsepower gasoline-powered pressure washer in a double garage with both doors open, the window open, and a vent open. In only 12 minutes CO concentrations in the garage rose to 658 parts per million (ppm). The rate of emission from a typical gasoline engine is so large (30,000 to 100,000 ppm) that it is very difficult to provide sufficient ventilation. NIOSH warns, “Do not use equipment and tools powered by gasoline engines inside buildings…”

Do large buildings dilute carbon monoxide enough to eliminate the risk of CO poisoning? No. NIOSH investigated a case where a worker in a 48 x 88 x 14 foot room was poisoned by carbon monoxide. He was using an 8-horsepower pump and had fresh air entering the room through the forced-air heating system. Ten minutes after the pump engine was started. CO concentrations as high as 395 ppm were measured. In an Iowa case, an entire six- story hotel was filled with carbon monoxide from a single malfunctioning water heater located in the basement. Concentrations were as high as 600 ppm in a sixth-story room, a potentially lethal level.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2018, 05:11:43 PM »
Why not spend the $100 (each assuming each one is about $30 and you need detectors for the boiler, oven, and dryer) and be sure? Why in heavens name would you put your family at risk?
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2018, 05:31:24 PM »
Let's just say that at any given time, there's a strong likelihood of a window or door being open in my house.
Nowhere near good enough

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2018, 05:40:46 PM »
Why not spend the $100 (each assuming each one is about $30 and you need detectors for the boiler, oven, and dryer) and be sure? Why in heavens name would you put your family at risk?

I would definitely not want to put my family at risk. I'm just not sure that the risk is real, for some reason I get the feeling that it's more scare tactics than anything else.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2018, 05:43:04 PM »
WIKI added. You are wrong.
https://www.abe.iastate.edu/extension-and-outreach/carbon-monoxide-poisoning-ventilation-aen-209/

The examples quoted in the Wiki sound like the testing they do on lab animals, where they give doses that are way in excess of anything that would occur under non-controlled circumstances.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2018, 05:43:58 PM »
I would definitely not want to put my family at risk. I'm just not sure that the risk is real, for some reason I get the feeling that it's more scare tactics than anything else.
you mean like the scare tactics used to sell helmets, seatbelts, and car seats?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2018, 05:48:18 PM »
I would definitely not want to put my family at risk. I'm just not sure that the risk is real, for some reason I get the feeling that it's more scare tactics than anything else.
How will you ensure that none of these ever happen?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2018, 05:52:20 PM »
I would definitely not want to put my family at risk. I'm just not sure that the risk is real, for some reason I get the feeling that it's more scare tactics than anything else.
The risk is real. Source: experience
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2018, 05:54:28 PM »
The risk is real. Source: experience
A former fire inspector in Lakewood (until 2009) told me how he lost 4 nephews and nieces to CO poisoning.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2018, 06:02:07 PM »
I would definitely not want to put my family at risk. I'm just not sure that the risk is real, for some reason I get the feeling that it's more scare tactics than anything else.
Have you not heard the horror stories ?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2018, 06:18:57 PM »
The risk is real. Source: experience
A former fire inspector in Lakewood (until 2009) told me how he lost 4 nephews and nieces to CO poisoning.
Have you not heard the horror stories ?

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding, but I don't think he's asking if the risk is real, rather how much if at all it's affected by the size, openness, and draftiness of the house.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2018, 06:32:54 PM »
Youre probably wrong. Anyway, It's required by law in Lakewood NJ, and I would assume in most places
New York State as well.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2018, 06:37:03 PM »
A former fire inspector in Lakewood (until 2009) told me how he lost 4 nephews and nieces to CO poisoning.
So B"H I'm not part of that list, likely due to the detectors we had in our house
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2018, 06:39:57 PM »
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding, but I don't think he's asking if the risk is real, rather how much if at all it's affected by the size, openness, and draftiness of the house.
Size doesn’t matter.
Even if there’s air coming in it would probably depend on how high the numbers are. If it’s high levels a draft won’t help too much.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2018, 06:41:44 PM »
A former fire inspector in Lakewood (until 2009) told me how he lost 4 nephews and nieces to CO poisoning.
Was it in anything other than an apartment (or Garage)?

It seems that whenever I hear or read a story, it's invariably an apartment, as opposed to a large house.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2018, 06:43:00 PM »
Was it in anything other than an apartment (or Garage)?

It seems that whenever I hear or read a story, it's invariably an apartment, as opposed to a large house.



So B"H I'm not part of that list, likely due to the detectors we had in our house

My impression was that it was a house. I know of cases in houses too.
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