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When I work in the garage, I keep all the doors open. Is that okay? No. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) ran a 5.5 horsepower gasoline-powered pressure washer in a double garage with both doors open, the window open, and a vent open. In only 12 minutes CO concentrations in the garage rose to 658 parts per million (ppm). The rate of emission from a typical gasoline engine is so large (30,000 to 100,000 ppm) that it is very difficult to provide sufficient ventilation. NIOSH warns, “Do not use equipment and tools powered by gasoline engines inside buildings…”

Do large buildings dilute carbon monoxide enough to eliminate the risk of CO poisoning? No. NIOSH investigated a case where a worker in a 48 x 88 x 14 foot room was poisoned by carbon monoxide. He was using an 8-horsepower pump and had fresh air entering the room through the forced-air heating system. Ten minutes after the pump engine was started. CO concentrations as high as 395 ppm were measured. In an Iowa case, an entire six- story hotel was filled with carbon monoxide from a single malfunctioning water heater located in the basement. Concentrations were as high as 600 ppm in a sixth-story room, a potentially lethal level.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2022, 10:52:07 AM »
Do they know the source?

I believe so

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2022, 11:36:12 AM »
I didn't read this thread, but I'm bumping to answer OP's question with a resounding YES. Last night a CO detector alarm went off in a very large house and thank G-d the occupants made it out safely with relatively minor symptoms. Without the alarm, there would have been an unspeakable tragedy.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2022, 11:50:57 AM »
I didn't read this thread, but I'm bumping to answer OP's question with a resounding YES. Last night a CO detector alarm went off in a very large house and thank G-d the occupants made it out safely with relatively minor symptoms. Without the alarm, there would have been an unspeakable tragedy.

How many per home? 1 per floor? 1 per bed room?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2022, 11:55:02 AM »
How many per home? 1 per floor? 1 per bed room?

Having them in hallways on floors where there are bedrooms is important, that’s where the biggest risks are r”l.
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2022, 12:37:51 PM »
Having them in hallways on floors where there are bedrooms is important, that’s where the biggest risks are r”l.

So if there are 4 rooms one one floor, just put one outside the hallway for all of them?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2022, 01:21:06 PM »
I have 1 combo smoke/CO on each floor (fairly small footprint ~600sqft) in the hallways/connecting spaces. We had the CO alarm go off at 5 or 6am on 2nd day YT - not sure what it was exactly, but it stands to reason it was related to the stovetop being on. Opened the windows to air everything out and that seemed to solve the problem.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2022, 08:47:45 PM »
I'm curious about a house with no natural gas or propane, like many part of Florida, since there is no combustion happening inside the home is there a reason to have a CO detector?

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2022, 08:48:29 PM »
I know of a story with an old oven that was going
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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2022, 09:07:00 PM »
We had the CO alarm go off at 5 or 6am on 2nd day YT - not sure what it was exactly, but it stands to reason it was related to the stovetop being on. Opened the windows to air everything out and that seemed to solve the problem.
not uncommon especially in basement apartments. leaving a window in the kitchen open a crack usually helps avoid the problem

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2022, 10:18:18 PM »
To be on the safe side you should also keep a window open a drop

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2022, 10:24:05 PM »
To be on the safe side you should also keep a window open a drop
+1 I leave a window open in my house every YT

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2022, 12:19:18 AM »
not uncommon especially in basement apartments. leaving a window in the kitchen open a crack usually helps avoid the problem
To be on the safe side you should also keep a window open a drop
+1 I leave a window open in my house every YT
Not a basement. Literally never had an issue over the many, many YT we've been in this house/kitechen, including 3 day YT. I don't usually leave my kitchen window open because then it blows on the flame - which, when keeping a flame low on YT, can result in blowing out the flame with the gas running. Don't really know what happened that one time.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2022, 12:20:06 AM »
within 10 feet of sleeping areas is local code (CA). In each bedroom is recommended. At least one per floor.
when you leave your oven or stove (gas) on over YT or Shabbos, you should leave a kitchen window slightly ajar.
This thread shouldn't exist for the stated initial purpose, so at least if it raises awareness, it served a purpose.

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Re: Is a Carbon Monoxide detector necessary in a large home?
« Reply #93 on: July 04, 2022, 11:42:11 AM »
When I lived in an apartment, our detector woke us up Shabbos morning at 4am. I called the fire department and also opened my door and windows. By the time they arrived the alarm turned off.

The firemen told me I should have left the house and kept the windows shut so they can detect and locate where the source is. But I’m pretty sure it came from oven that was left on overnight.
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