All About Grilling

[rs242]

How much should a plumber charge if no burying but going through brick?

Fwiw, Last time I asked going through brick running 15 ft was about 1k.

[ushdadude]

Natural Gas has nearly 1/2 the energy by volume of propane, so to get the same BTU you'd need to pump double the NG through the burner then the propane.

The way this is usually done is by changing the tiny orifices that feed the propane to the burners to ones with larger opening that feed more fuel volume per second.
Usually these replacement orifices are sized to get you the same final BTU, but sometimes they will be too small, for example if the gas line running to the grill has less flow then anticipated.

It may be possible to either adjust the flow rate with a screw under the burner knobs, or failing that drill out the orifices a touch bigger to make back the lost BTU.

My Nexgrill was able to be adjusted to higher flames with the knob adjusted.

Another benefit of NG is that it rises up instead of sinking like propane, so if you leave it running it'll disperse vs filling your yard/area with flammable gas.

disclaimer: gas is dangerous, get a pro to vet your plan before mucking around.

i had a plumber do the conversion and he did drill the orifices.

[CountValentine]

Fwiw, Last time I asked going through brick running 15 ft was about 1k.

OUCH!!! Line up ten customers and I will fly out and do it for half that. 

[CountValentine]

i had a plumber do the conversion and he did drill the orifices.

Did you have a conversion kit or just drill the LP orifices?

[rs242]

OUCH!!! Line up ten customers and I will fly out and do it for half that. 

Don’t u have to use copper (or other expensive pipe) when running ng?

[CountValentine]

Don’t u have to use copper (or other expensive pipe) when running ng?

Not in IL. I ran black pipe to the outside then for underground something like this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/HOME-FLEX-1-2-in-IPS-x-100-ft-DR-9-3-Underground-Yellow-Polyethylene-Gas-Pipe-19-0593100/301892363?mtc=Shopping-B-F_D26P-B-D26P-26_1_PIPE_AND_FITTINGS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-New_Engen&cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D26P-B-D26P-26_1_PIPE_AND_FITTINGS-NA-NA-Feed-LIA-NA-NA-New_Engen-71700000072651806-58700006352277098-92700057314826779&gclid=64a62862628816dde45248eace9567da&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=64a62862628816dde45248eace9567da

[ushdadude]

Did you have a conversion kit or just drill the LP orifices?

latter. weber doesn't make a conversion kit

[CountValentine]

latter. weber doesn't make a conversion kit

Good thing I bought NG to begin with. 

[ushdadude]

Good thing I bought NG to begin with. 

I bought propane because my apartment didn't have a line. I bought my house solely because it did have a line.

[yesitsme]

I bought propane because my apartment didn't have a line. I bought my house solely because it did have a line.

You bought your house because of a gas line?

[ushdadude]

You bought your house because of a gas line?

that and the Japanese weeping tree in the yard

[CountValentine]

that and the Japanese weeping tree in the yard

That would seal the deal for me. 
I have a Japanese maple that is coming back to life.

[yitzgar]

Fwiw, Last time I asked going through brick running 15 ft was about 1k.

Wow. I was quoted $500 and I'm looking for more estimates

[CountValentine]

Wow. I was quoted $500 and I'm looking for more estimates

Is you gas line easy to get at. Maybe going to an oven, furnace or water heater?

[yitzgar]

Is you gas line easy to get at. Maybe going to an oven, furnace or water heater?

Gas cooktop is right behind the wall

[mmgfarb]

I bought propane because my apartment didn't have a line. I bought my house solely because it did have a line.

That's awesome, did you put in an outdoor kitchen?

[CountValentine]

Gas cooktop is right behind the wall

Easy to get at the piping? If so you are looking at two hours max. Some piping and a hook up kit will be under 100.

[ushdadude]

That's awesome, did you put in an outdoor kitchen?

maybe one day. for now i'm happy with my weber and pellet grill

[yitzgar]

Easy to get at the piping? If so you are looking at two hours max. Some piping and a hook up kit will be under 100.

Idk. Guess I'll find out when the plumber comes next week...

[CountValentine]

...pellet grill

Is that like a smoker?