Restaurants In Israel Master Thread

[yitrap]

Posted somewhere here. If you can't find it I'll look later.

I'll look around, thanks.

[Buruch]

   There are Israeli organizations who keep lists of the fully reputable hechserim but you won't like the list, at all.
   The Americans are the ones the want it. It was tried and failed, they got too much backlash I believe.
   The difference I believe is that Americans want to believe everything is good while israelis want to believe it's all bad.
   How many people here actually researched the restaurants internationally when going on vacation? In Europe, Asia, Africa? From what I picked up in conversations I'd say an extremely small percentage. While charedi israelis will challenge the kashrus is a Rubin restaurant. Is that a bad mentality? Maybe, but that's not what we are discussing now.
  I'd say the complicating cause is the people, on both sides of the spectrum and not the organizations themselves.
  The average American has no idea specifically why he doesn't eat the hechserim that he doesn't eat besides for the fact that the CRC  says so on their site. So how do you expect to take that lack of knowledge and somehow figure out what you eat in Israel when you don't know what standards you eat. Does the fact the rabbanim here can't tell you what's on the Kof-K standards in Israel make it complicated? Because it's a foreign country and there is no American committee paid and  dedicated to spoon-feeding info you want to hear? Sit down with your local rabbi and come up with a list of your priorities and standards and I'll give you a list of hechserim that claim to follow those.
 

It's not that simple. There are 2 parts to every hashgacha. 1) The standards they claim to hold. 2) How well they enforce those standards. It's almost impossible to know the answer to number 2 even if you know the answer to number 1.  Many Rabanim (unless they work in hashgacha) wouldn't even know, and many therefore only eat Eida Hacharedis and Landa and not much else.

[Emkay]

It's not that simple. There are 2 parts to every hashgacha. 1) The standards they claim to hold. 2) How well they enforce those standards. It's almost impossible to know the answer to number 2 even if you know the answer to number 1.  Many Rabanim (unless they work in hashgacha) wouldn't even know, and many therefore only eat Eida Hacharedis and Landa and not much else.

There is a reason I wrote "claim". Whether you believe it or not, the American hechserim lists are based mostly on standards they claim to hold and not on the actual physical masgiach in store.
Precisely why you should ask a Rav here.

[yitrap]

Posted somewhere here. If you can't find it I'll look later.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49511.0

Brief scroll through seems to show primary concerns for fleshig stuff. There are mentions of Bishul Akum and bugs which would be universal.

[Emkay]

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49511.0

Brief scroll through seems to show primary concerns for fleshig stuff. There are mentions of Bishul Akum and bugs which would be universal.

Bugs are technically almost a non issue really. There was a more detailed list, I'll try to find it later.

[12HRS]

Every time Dan plans a trip to israel we end up with this hock...

[Abey]

For starters you can take the biggest issue here, bishul akum.

all restaurants that I ate in have jewish kitchen managers so I don’t really get you...
I’m just asking honestly because I have heard from many reliable people eating rabanut mehadrin on milchigs

[Emkay]

all restaurants that I ate in have jewish kitchen managers

Rarely helps.
Which Rav in Israel did you hear that from?

[aygart]

all restaurants that I ate in have jewish kitchen managers so I don’t really get you...

How does that resolve bishul akum?

[aygart]

The CRC has a good database on local Vaads in the US and pretty much everyone relies on it.
Where is the equivalent for Israel?

Rabbi Fishbane does not have an equivalent in E"Y

[Dan]

Rabbi Fishbane does not have an equivalent in E"Y

Why not?

[aygart]

Why not?

He is a person who is unique in many ways. The Israeli politics also has to do with it.

[sky121]

The Israeli politics also has to do with it.

And just about all hechsherim matters in general.

[sky121]

@Dan will Hatch be open again when you're scheduled to go?

[aygart]

And just about all hechsherim matters in general.

Politics gets involved in everything there but what are you referring to exactly?

[Dan]

@Dan will Hatch be open again when you're scheduled to go?

Link?

[sky121]

Politics gets involved in everything there but what are you referring to exactly?

Just that all hechsherim have a lot to do with politics. In the States as well. That was all. I realize I am probably just stating a fact that most people already know.

[sky121]

Link?

https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/09/new-brewery-mehadrin-sausage-stand-opens-in-machane-yehudah-hatch/

http://www.israelkosherdining.com/hatch-brewpub/

On my mobile. I don't think they have a site but def a Facebook page.

[Dan]

https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/09/new-brewery-mehadrin-sausage-stand-opens-in-machane-yehudah-hatch/

http://www.israelkosherdining.com/hatch-brewpub/

On my mobile. I don't think they have a site but def a Facebook page.

Is it closed now?

[sky121]

Is it closed now?

Last I heard they were closing the place for renovations. I think they were making the place bigger.