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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2018, 01:49:19 PM »
It’s landing in ATH now.
Isn't it already shkia? What are the frum pax going to do?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2018, 01:54:41 PM »
Isn't it already shkia? What are the frum pax going to do?

It landed 18 minutes to shkiah. Looks like there is a Sofitel at ATH.

Would be interested to hear what the Frum passengers did.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2018, 01:56:05 PM »
https://www.chabad.org/calendar/candleLighting_cdo/locationId/29/locationType/1/jewish/Candle-Lighting.htm

Candle lighting at 8:31pm. Landed at 8:28pm but not sure if that means they arrived at the gate or wheels touched down. Either way, better use all of those 18 minutes. Reminds me of the discussion in the gemara in Shabbat 122a where Rabban Gamliel and the Zekenim use a gangway a nochri prepared to disembark from a boat on Shabbos. Wonder if it's different because it's El Al or because it is in Greece we can assume a nochri is navigating the jetbridge.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2018, 01:59:29 PM »
https://www.chabad.org/calendar/candleLighting_cdo/locationId/29/locationType/1/jewish/Candle-Lighting.htm

Candle lighting at 8:31pm. Landed at 8:28pm but not sure if that means they arrived at the gate or wheels touched down. Either way, better use all of those 18 minutes. Reminds me of the discussion in the gemara in Shabbat 122a where Rabban Gamliel and the Zekenim use a gangway a nochri prepared to disembark from a boat on Shabbos. Wonder if it's different because it's El Al or because it is in Greece we can assume a nochri is navigating the jetbridge.
Probably wheels down. What an awful situation.
I don't understand why LY went to ATH other than putting finances above pax needs.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2018, 02:01:42 PM »
Well now they get at least the EU compensation, no?

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2018, 02:03:51 PM »
Well now they get at least the EU compensation, no?
Not for a med emergency.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2018, 02:04:27 PM »
I don't understand why LY went to ATH other than putting finances above pax needs.
1000%
Inconceivable!!

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2018, 02:06:19 PM »
Any media coverage of this at all?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2018, 02:10:06 PM »
Flightradar24 says touchdown at 8:33pm, 16 minutes before shkia.
Still had to taxi to gate, and get off the plane. Doubt that's possible from a 747 that quickly.
Is there any online data that shows arrival at gate time?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2018, 02:14:13 PM »
Anyone know how many frum pax were onboard?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2018, 02:15:02 PM »
Any media coverage of this at all?
If you throw it up on DDMS there will be. Dangers of traveling Erev Shabbos. But it sounds like you're way ahead of the curve as per usual  ;D

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2018, 02:26:41 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2018, 02:30:40 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.
1. I agree, but people do it all the time without thinking of potential issues.
2. Highly doubt they let any pax off.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2018, 02:32:54 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.
No direct flights to NYC from YQX. Only other small to mid-size Canadian cities. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/yqx/departures

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2018, 02:38:33 PM »
1. I agree, but people do it all the time without thinking of potential issues.
2. Highly doubt they let any pax off.
1. My sister now learned her lesson the hard way... she won’t be taking this flight again lol. She texted me that she landed in ATH about 12 min before shabbos and was still taxiing so who knows when they made it to the gate but no other details so I assume she turned phone off.

2. They did not allow any passengers to stay behind in Canada. She tried and was told no.