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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2018, 02:15:02 PM »
Any media coverage of this at all?
If you throw it up on DDMS there will be. Dangers of traveling Erev Shabbos. But it sounds like you're way ahead of the curve as per usual  ;D

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2018, 02:26:41 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2018, 02:30:40 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.
1. I agree, but people do it all the time without thinking of potential issues.
2. Highly doubt they let any pax off.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2018, 02:32:54 PM »
1. Frum people shouldn't fly so close to shabbos. On a good day, this flight lands at 5:15 IDT, which is a crazy risk to take.

2. I hope LY gave people the option to get off in Gander and fly back to NY.
No direct flights to NYC from YQX. Only other small to mid-size Canadian cities. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/yqx/departures

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2018, 02:38:33 PM »
1. I agree, but people do it all the time without thinking of potential issues.
2. Highly doubt they let any pax off.
1. My sister now learned her lesson the hard way... she won’t be taking this flight again lol. She texted me that she landed in ATH about 12 min before shabbos and was still taxiing so who knows when they made it to the gate but no other details so I assume she turned phone off.

2. They did not allow any passengers to stay behind in Canada. She tried and was told no.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2018, 02:40:01 PM »
1. My sister now learned her lesson the hard way... she won’t be taking this flight again lol. She texted me that she landed in ATH about 12 min before shabbos and was still taxiing so who knows when they made it to the gate but no other details so I assume she turned phone off.

2. They did not allow any passengers to stay behind in Canada. She tried and was told no.
Awful.
Really frustrating that they would go to ATH. Where are all the LY defenders??

No way that 747 could deplane with less than 12 minutes to shkia. I wonder what the halacha is in that case?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2018, 02:44:17 PM »
1. My sister now learned her lesson the hard way... she won’t be taking this flight again lol. She texted me that she landed in ATH about 12 min before shabbos and was still taxiing so who knows when they made it to the gate but no other details so I assume she turned phone off.

2. They did not allow any passengers to stay behind in Canada. She tried and was told no.
Shame they didn't let her deplane. Based on the Broadway show Come from Away, she would have had a great time. Just ask Rabbi Leivi Sudwak of Chabad of Edgware.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2018, 02:48:26 PM »
Shame they didn't let her deplane. Based on the Broadway show Come from Away, she would have had a great time. Just ask Rabbi Leivi Sudwak of Chabad of Edgware.
Did you read the book it was based off of?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2018, 02:59:47 PM »
They'll have a wonderfull shabbos meals served by Bornstein catering.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2018, 03:04:50 PM »
They'll have a wonderfull shabbos meals served by Bornstein catering.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2018, 03:05:43 PM »
1. My sister now learned her lesson the hard way... she won’t be taking this flight again lol. She texted me that she landed in ATH about 12 min before shabbos and was still taxiing so who knows when they made it to the gate but no other details so I assume she turned phone off.

2. They did not allow any passengers to stay behind in Canada. She tried and was told no.
I was in a different situation on a delta flight tlv to ny, they didn't let anyone deplane the black hats started piling up by the front exit they said whoever wants could leave, once you step your foot out theres no way back, luggage will stay on board.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2018, 03:22:27 PM »
My brother was on board. From what I heard - Rabbi Mendel Hendel, of Athens Chabad, arranged for food to be brought to the airport and a lounge reserved for them.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #52 on: June 15, 2018, 03:27:11 PM »
Awesome!
Any more details?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #53 on: June 15, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
Did you read the book it was based off of?
Have not and am about to embark on a 3 week honeymoon to Japan. I will put it onto the Kindle I got from the deal you posted earlier this week. Chazaq u'Baruch to R' Hendel of Athens Chabad.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #54 on: June 15, 2018, 03:40:11 PM »
They'll have a wonderfull shabbos meals served by Bornstein catering.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #55 on: June 15, 2018, 03:57:12 PM »
Why didn't they flu the plane back to NY and take off again Motzei Shabbos? Or at leastet People off in Canada? Or lastly, land in city with Frum Jews like London etc? And in London they would still have time to leave the airport?...
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #56 on: June 15, 2018, 03:58:35 PM »
Awful.
Really frustrating that they would go to ATH. Where are all the LY defenders??

No way that 747 could deplane with less than 12 minutes to shkia. I wonder what the halacha is in that case?
bein hashmashos has some "leniencies" in such a situation, but better ask your rav. my rabbi always mentions that nowadays we have shomer shabbos yidden, but the shomer erev shabbos yidden are gone.

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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2018, 04:03:25 PM »
Why didn't they flu the plane back to NY and take off again Motzei Shabbos? Or at leastet People off in Canada? Or lastly, land in city with Frum Jews like London etc? And in London they would still have time to leave the airport?...
Would have had plenty of time in LON.
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2018, 04:18:54 PM »
Flying to TLV now:
https://www.flightradar24.com/ELY008/1cc9292f

Did they let non-frum PAX continue on?
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Re: Oh uh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2018, 04:20:06 PM »
Would have had plenty of time in LON.

Maybe harder and more expensive to get a landing slot?