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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #160 on: June 21, 2018, 06:26:42 PM »
FTFY
Today's days no keeps R"T L'kula.
Not true.

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #161 on: June 21, 2018, 07:45:10 PM »
Not true.
Find me someone who had a child born 58 minutes after the Shkiah and still make the Bris on the 7th day (according to Shitas H'Gonim)?

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #162 on: June 21, 2018, 07:51:35 PM »
Find me someone who had a child born 58 minutes after the Shkiah and still make the Bris on the 7th day (according to Shitas H'Gonim)?
Look in Minchas Cohen.

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #163 on: June 21, 2018, 08:03:56 PM »
Look in Minchas Cohen.
That doesn't answer his question.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #164 on: June 21, 2018, 08:12:15 PM »
That doesn't answer his question.
Sorry, I meant iirc, there is a whole discussion there about why Bris Milah is different. Unless I'm mixing up with Pidyon Haben.

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #165 on: June 21, 2018, 08:26:44 PM »
Sorry, I meant iirc, there is a whole discussion there about why Bris Milah is different. Unless I'm mixing up with Pidyon Haben.
Klauzenburg Rav Z"L (which tonight is his yahrzeit), was holding R"T L'kula, (at least at some point) but as I said today AFAIK no one would do that, even doing a Melocho erev shabas 58 minutes after shkiah you won't find.

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #166 on: June 22, 2018, 07:40:44 AM »
Then they'll face massive backlash for flying on Shabbos.
They flew on Shabbos anyway!

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #167 on: June 22, 2018, 09:10:46 AM »
http://col.org.il/חדשות_חבד_נוחתים_סמוך_לשבת_מלון_חדש_יוקם_בלוד_בקרבה_לשכונת_חבד_111908.html

Low quality reporting. Makes it sound like a hotel being put up especially for people that land close to Shabbos. Not a real business model.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #168 on: June 22, 2018, 09:16:31 AM »
http://col.org.il/חדשות_חבד_נוחתים_סמוך_לשבת_מלון_חדש_יוקם_בלוד_בקרבה_לשכונת_חבד_111908.html

Low quality reporting. Makes it sound like a hotel being put up especially for people that land close to Shabbos. Not a real business model.
This reminds me of the famous story of Chelem..... building a hospital near the bridge instead of fixing the bridge.....

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2018, 06:32:43 AM »
1 flight is landing in ATH
another flight is landing in FCO.

why did all frum people left at all on that flight, which was delayed in the begining from JFK

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #172 on: November 16, 2018, 07:30:37 AM »
1 flight is landing in ATH
another flight is landing in FCO.

why did all frum people left at all on that flight, which was delayed in the begining from JFK

ATH again? There is not much in the way of Kosher there.

FCO is actually a good choice. They have plenty of Shabbos restaurants and kosher options there.

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #173 on: November 16, 2018, 07:36:42 AM »
ATH again? There is not much in the way of Kosher there.

FCO is actually a good choice. They have plenty of Shabbos restaurants and kosher options there.
they will be staying near the airport so it doesn’t really matter

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #174 on: November 16, 2018, 08:00:07 AM »
they will be staying near the airport so it doesn’t really matter
Landing in FCO with less than 2 hours to Shabbos isn't a decent choice. They could have landed in FRA, LON, PAR or maybe even Basel, Zurich or Vienna, where there are more established Jewish communities, and they should have made an effort to land in a place that gives more time between actual landing and Shabbos.
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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #175 on: November 16, 2018, 08:04:12 AM »
Landing in FCO with less than 2 hours to Shabbos isn't a decent choice. They could have landed in FRA, LON, PAR or maybe even Basel, Zurich or Vienna, where there are more established Jewish communities, and they should have made an effort to land in a place that gives more time between actual landing and Shabbos.

the best solution was to stay in NYC & not to take the risk at all, BTW UA cancelled yesterday both flights to TLV

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #176 on: November 16, 2018, 08:08:36 AM »
the best solution was to stay in NYC & not to take the risk at all, BTW UA cancelled yesterday both flights to TLV
Agreed. But that's a costly option, and inconsistent with their thinking.
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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #177 on: November 16, 2018, 08:10:23 AM »
now its costing them much more to provide the hotel, in NYC they dont have to provide anything, since its weather related

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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #178 on: November 16, 2018, 08:13:06 AM »
now its costing them much more to provide the hotel, in NYC they dont have to provide anything, since its weather related

And keeping 2 large aircraft parked in NYC and disrupting following week schedule is without cost?
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Re: Uh oh - El Al #LY8 from JFK to Tel Aviv is diverting to Gander 
« Reply #179 on: November 16, 2018, 08:24:35 AM »
Which flight is landing in FCO?
LY2 landed in TLV moments ago
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