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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2018, 04:58:02 PM »
You have one in mind?
See my post edit above.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2018, 05:00:14 PM »
Yes.

For example, designate male only and female only rows or seat blocks (probably won't need more than one of each at most) and post the policy clearly: you can choose a male only row or block, if you fail to do so and refuse assigned seat due to gender of person assigned to the seat next to you, you will be given the option to resolve on your own or deplane within 3 minutes.
How many they will need will depend on route and time of year, but such a solution had been used successfully by Tower Air.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2018, 05:01:58 PM »
How many they will need will depend on route and time of year, but such a solution had been used successfully by Tower Air.
Well, every airline actively engages in inventory management (fare buckets), this kind of inventory management is small change compared to the fare bucket management.

I don't know much about Tower Air A"H, but the fact that ELAL hasn't come up with this simple solution up to this day, is just another piece of evidence to what I've been saying about their flawed DNA.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2018, 05:02:42 PM »
Well, every airline actively engages in inventory management (fare buckets), this kind of inventory management is small change compared to the fare bucket management.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2018, 05:03:28 PM »
Yes.

For example, designate male only and female only rows or seat blocks (probably won't need more than one of each at most) and post the policy clearly: you can choose a male only row or block, if you fail to do so and refuse assigned seat due to gender of person assigned to the seat next to you, you will be given the option to resolve on your own or deplane within 3 minutes.
What will they do when @ChaimMoskowitz chooses the female one ;)

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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2018, 05:04:34 PM »
What will they do when @ChaimMoskowitz chooses the female one ;)


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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2018, 05:04:50 PM »
What will they do when @ChaimMoskowitz chooses the female one ;)
That's small change compared to people who choose their gender on a daily basis. They might have to limit the availability of those seat blocks based on residential zipcode (with some serious challenge questions required in order to avoid fraud).

Alternatively, just like they do for the TSA (and other airport security agencies) pat-downs, they can designate a male and female checker to verify based on objective criteria below the waistline.

And if indeed someone is caught selecting a seat assigned to a different gender, that person would have to pay for a seat elsewhere.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2018, 05:08:32 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2018, 05:15:21 PM »
That's small change compared to people who choose their gender on a daily basis. They might have to limit the availability of those seat blocks based on residential zipcode (with some serious challenge questions required in order to avoid fraud).

Alternatively, just like they do for the TSA (and other airport security agencies) pat-downs, they can designate a male and female checker to verify based on objective criteria below the waistline.

And if indeed someone is caught selecting a seat assigned to a different gender, that person would have to pay for a seat elsewhere.
Sounds like it would cause more problems, than the already problem ridden airline has.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2018, 05:16:43 PM »
What will they do when @ChaimMoskowitz chooses the female one ;)
I would ask the ladies if it was OK first.


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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2018, 05:17:23 PM »
I would ask the ladies if it was OK first.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2018, 06:15:45 PM »
The ELAL response in this case isn't anti-orthodox IMHO, it's PR/damage-control in a measured way.

All I was saying is, that ELAL sees the need to PR/damage-control a story circulating in the secular media but doesn't feel it needs to PR/damage-control a shabbos nightmare.

Do you think ELAL released a statement in response to the negative press given to them bt DD? Why not? they don't care about us. It is the feeling you get when you fly elal.

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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #91 on: June 25, 2018, 06:30:17 PM »
Do you think ELAL released a statement in response to the negative press given to them bt DD? Why not? they don't care about us. It is the feeling you get when you fly elal.
It's not that they don't care, it's that they see no benefit or need for a response. They have enough frum customers that will keep on flying with them regardless.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #92 on: June 25, 2018, 08:19:16 PM »
It's not that they don't care, it's that they see no benefit or need for a response. They have enough frum customers that will keep on flying with them regardless.
And more secular will stop flying as a result of this story?

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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2018, 02:43:13 PM »
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #97 on: June 26, 2018, 02:44:29 PM »
Utterly ridiculous, so much for journalistic integrity.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #98 on: June 26, 2018, 02:44:41 PM »
I'm more shocked about NBC. If you know anything about Elal other then the flag on the back of the plane, you'd know it can't be.
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Re: why does DD's hate Elal
« Reply #99 on: June 26, 2018, 03:18:23 PM »
Utterly ridiculous, so much for journalistic integrity.
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