Author Topic: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist (Read 59372 times)

CountValentine · « **Reply #400 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:21:12 AM »

Hope about this for a goalpost position.
The president no matter where in his term should nominate and the senate should not purposely delay!!!

yeshivabucher · « **Reply #401 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:24:30 AM »

okay lets be clear the president can nominate whenever he wants ( right or wrong )the senates can do whatever they want ( right or wrong ) only problem i have is when they claim to have higher motives then just politics and dont want the political ramifications for their actions be what they may be

chinagel · « **Reply #402 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:26:17 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 19, 2020, 10:21:12 AM

Hope about this for a goalpost position.
The president no matter where in his term should nominate and the senate should not purposely delay!!!

But only if the majority of the senate is the same party as the president.

CountValentine · « **Reply #403 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:28:44 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on July 19, 2020, 10:26:17 AM

But only if the majority of the senate is the same party as the president.

#fakenews
That is the problem with most. They always want to move the goalpost.

chinagel · « **Reply #404 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:31:36 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 19, 2020, 10:28:44 AM

#fakenews
That is the problem with most. They always want to move the goalpost.

Like it or not, those are the current goalposts. They probably aint moving anytime soon.

shaulyaakov · « **Reply #405 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:33:30 AM »

Democrats spoke in concept about not approving a Bush nominee that wasn't clearly "mainstream"

McConnell actually didn't even hold a hearing on an Obama nominee, who was by all accounts "mainstream" - he was approved to the DC circuit appeals court (arguably the 2nd highest court in the country) 76-23, with a majority of republicans voting for him.

YitzyS · « **Reply #406 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:36:12 AM »

Quote from: shaulyaakov on July 19, 2020, 10:33:30 AM

Democrats spoke in concept about not approving a Bush nominee that wasn't clearly "mainstream"

McConnell actually didn't even hold a hearing on an Obama nominee, who was by all accounts "mainstream" - he was approved to the DC circuit appeals court (arguably the 2nd highest court in the country) 76-23, with a majority of republicans voting for him.

It would be a political stunt for Trump to nominate Garland if he loses the election. Democrats all yelled that he was a great choice, so it would look strange if they backed down on it...

What do you think?

aygart · « **Reply #407 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:37:18 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on July 19, 2020, 10:31:36 AM

Like it or not, those are the current goalposts. They probably aint moving anytime soon.

The current goalposts are that POTUS has the right to choose whether or not to nominate and the Senate has the right to choose whether or not to take up the nomination. Exactly as prescribed by the constitution. The practical ramifications are the above. Anything else is just political spin including this.

Quote from: shaulyaakov on July 19, 2020, 10:33:30 AM

Democrats spoke in concept about not approving a Bush nominee that wasn't clearly "mainstream"

McConnell actually didn't even hold a hearing on an Obama nominee, who was by all accounts "mainstream" - he was approved to the DC circuit appeals court (arguably the 2nd highest court in the country) 76-23, with a majority of republicans voting for him.

shaulyaakov · « **Reply #408 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:37:31 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on July 19, 2020, 10:31:36 AM

Like it or not, those are the current goalposts. They probably aint moving anytime soon.

I'm genuinely curious what would happen in a case where Biden wins the presidency but Republicans keep the Senate (probably the most likely scenario based on today's polling).

I assume the senate would have to hold hearings, but you never know.

aygart · « **Reply #409 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:38:44 AM »

Quote from: shaulyaakov on July 19, 2020, 10:37:31 AM

I'm genuinely curious what would happen in a case where Biden wins the presidency but Republicans keep the Senate (probably the most likely scenario based on today's polling).

I assume the senate would have to hold hearings, but you never know.

I don't think they would be able to get away with that politically. The same question and answer goes for if Trump wins and the Senate flips. As a practical matter I think the Ds would be more likely to feel they can get away with not taking it up than the Rs but I don't think they would be right about that.

YitzyS · « **Reply #410 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:39:31 AM »

Can a mod rename this thread "SCOTUS Replacement DDF Shortlist"? Kennedy at this point may as well be president Kennedy...

chinagel · « **Reply #411 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:40:39 AM »

Quote from: aygart on July 19, 2020, 10:37:18 AM

The current goalposts are that POTUS has the right to choose whether or not to nominate and the Senate has the right to choose whether or not to take up the nomination. Exactly as prescribed by the constitution. The practical ramifications are the above. Anything else is just political spin including this.

No need to argue on the definition of goalposts when we can just ask Mr. Goalpost himself. He's right here on DDF. Step up @CountValentine

chinagel · « **Reply #412 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:41:28 AM »

Quote from: shaulyaakov on July 19, 2020, 10:37:31 AM

I'm genuinely curious what would happen in a case where Biden wins the presidency but Republicans keep the Senate (probably the most likely scenario based on today's polling).

I assume the senate would have to hold hearings, but you never know.

Are you asking before the new senate comes in or after?

CountValentine · « **Reply #413 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:42:50 AM »

Quote from: YitzyS on July 19, 2020, 10:39:31 AM

Can a mod rename this thread "SCOTUS Replacement DDF Shortlist"? Kennedy at this point may as well be president Kennedy...

While they are it they can rename thousands of other thread.

chinagel · « **Reply #414 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:45:01 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 19, 2020, 10:42:50 AM

While they are it they can rename thousands of other thread.

And merge the @CountValentine thread with @ChaimMoskowitz and @JTZ and all the others.

CountValentine · « **Reply #415 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:49:51 AM »

Quote from: chinagel on July 19, 2020, 10:40:39 AM

No need to argue on the definition of goalposts when we can just ask Mr. Goalpost himself. He's right here on DDF. Step up @CountValentine

Everyone can have their own goalposts. The issue is not having them but moving them. Here on DDF it is worse than a shooting gallery.

YitzyS · « **Reply #416 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:50:08 AM »

Quote from: YitzyS on July 19, 2020, 10:36:12 AM

It would be a political stunt for Trump to nominate Garland if he loses the election. Democrats all yelled that he was a great choice, so it would look strange if they backed down on it...

What do you think?

No feedback?? I think it's a genius move, and I'm waiting to hear why I'm wrong...

CountValentine · « **Reply #417 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:51:46 AM »

Quote from: YitzyS on July 19, 2020, 10:50:08 AM

I think it's a genius move...

ROFLMAO!!!

chinagel · « **Reply #418 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:53:39 AM »

Quote from: YitzyS on July 19, 2020, 10:50:08 AM

No feedback?? I think it's a genius move, and I'm waiting to hear why I'm wrong...

If he loses the election, he may just have a total meltdown and completely overwhelm Twitter's servers. Forget about him even pretending he's running the country.
Also, the R's aren't interested in Garland. They're not going to nominate him just to stick it the D's if they think they can get someone better up there.

YitzyS · « **Reply #419 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:55:40 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on July 19, 2020, 10:51:46 AM

ROFLMAO!!!

You can laugh, but unless you tell me otherwise, I still think it's a smart move.

Republicans would know that if they don't act fast, a hard leftist will be nominated (assuming that Biden will get the Senate along with presidency). They would rather Garland than a hard leftist, so they would push him through quickly, and their justification would be that the Dems all thought he was a great choice 4 years earlier.