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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #360 on: July 15, 2020, 05:49:23 PM »
successor not predecessor
Fixed it, thanks.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #361 on: July 15, 2020, 05:50:37 PM »
Right! After he loses, he shouldn't be making those decisions. But until then, he is fully allowed to.

Otherwise, maybe we shouldn't let a president make decisions in his 3rd year also? Maybe also in his 2nd year?
But BO never lost as was voted in to make those decisions and he wasn't allowed to.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #362 on: July 15, 2020, 05:55:06 PM »
But BO never lost as was voted in to make those decisions and he wasn't allowed to.
Indeed. But Senate - who was also voted in - decided that he shouldn't be allowed to.

My point only was that there is a tremendous distinction between what happened four years ago and a theoretical nomination before the election, and McConnell is NOT a hypocrite if he confirms said theoretical nomination.

Whether it was the right decision four years ago is not my point. I'm honestly not sure about that. I personally think that there should be some measures to ensure a more balanced decision, like a mandated 60 votes (I don't like that Republicans abolished that). I think Garland may have been a great Justice.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #363 on: July 15, 2020, 05:57:07 PM »
That is so dramatically wrong! Why won't Senate confirm the nominee of a lame duck president? Because he is no longer relevant. He's just setting policy for his successor. But when someone still have a 50/50 chance of remaining in office, why in the world shouldn't they be able to nominate someone??

Your passion for this is coming through strongly but explaining svoros to me is not going to change anything. I haven't even taken sides here, I'm just telling you that it's a non starter in the court of public opinion.

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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #364 on: July 15, 2020, 05:58:36 PM »
Your passion for this is coming through strongly but explaining svoros to me is not going to change anything. I haven't even taken sides here, I'm just telling you that it's a non starter in the court of public opinion.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #365 on: July 15, 2020, 05:59:02 PM »
Indeed. But Senate - who was also voted in - decided that he shouldn't be allowed to.

My point only was that there is a tremendous distinction between what happened four years ago and a theoretical nomination before the election, and McConnell is NOT a hypocrite if he confirms said theoretical nomination.

Whether it was the right decision four years ago is not my point. I'm honestly not sure about that. I personally think that there should be some measures to ensure a more balanced decision, like a mandated 60 votes (I don't like that Republicans abolished that). I think Garland may have been a great Justice.
Let me make this simple. Whoever is the president makes the decision. Bake the pretzel whatever way you want.
The senate does not represent the voice of the people.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #366 on: July 15, 2020, 05:59:28 PM »
Your passion for this is coming through strongly but explaining svoros to me is not going to change anything. I haven't even taken sides here, I'm just telling you that it's a non starter in the court of public opinion.
Meh. Those who said it should be done promptly would all say to push it off and those who pushed it off would say to do it propmptly and nobody else would care at all.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #367 on: July 15, 2020, 05:59:57 PM »
Let me make this simple. Whoever is the president makes the decision. Bake the pretzel whatever way you want.
The senate does not represent the voice of the people.
The why does the constitution mandate that they approve the nomination??
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #368 on: July 15, 2020, 06:00:51 PM »
Meh. Those who said it should be done promptly would all say to push it off and those who pushed it off would say to do it propmptly and nobody else would care at all.
The old everyone would do this or that.  :)
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #369 on: July 15, 2020, 06:01:44 PM »
Let me make this simple. Whoever is the president makes the decision. Bake the pretzel whatever way you want.

No, the president with the advice and consent of the Senate makes the decision.

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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #370 on: July 15, 2020, 06:02:10 PM »
The old everyone would do this or that.  :)

Do you honestly believe that any R senator would say to push it off or that any D senator would say to quickly approve?
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #371 on: July 15, 2020, 06:03:54 PM »
The why does the constitution mandate that they approve the nomination??
We have checks and balances as it should be. They failed to there job by never allowing a nomination.
My point was the senate does not represent the voice of the people. It gives states equal say.
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #372 on: July 15, 2020, 06:05:34 PM »
Do you honestly believe that any R senator would say to push it off

Did you forget that Mitt Romney is a R senator?

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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #373 on: July 15, 2020, 06:07:02 PM »
No, the president with the advice and consent of the Senate makes the decision.
I am talking about nominating someone but as usual your hate just turns to constant attack. Keep those posts coming as your picture is 100% accurate!!!
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Re: Kennedy Replacement DDF Shortlist
« Reply #374 on: July 15, 2020, 06:07:55 PM »
Do you honestly believe that any R senator would say to push it off or that any D senator would say to quickly approve?
Yes not can we stop with everyone does this or that non-sense!
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