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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2018, 08:21:20 PM »
Need "Google Punctuation" for this one.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »
Simple u guys claim the 2013 t and c doesn’t say anything about points value great prove it post it or send it to me I’m calling bluff because none of u have an actual copy
Instead of getting upset, why don't you tell us what exactly is going on and maybe someone can help you.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2018, 08:43:42 PM »
Why does everyone feel the need to know exactly what’s going there is someone a client who has beeen audited by the irs and is having some  major issues one of the things they have brought up is the points he had huge biz spent millions every year and of course never bothered to report the points as everyone knows points have no cash value well guess what Amex now says value depneds on use only on thier USA website not any other country and wipes the internet from old terms prior to the 2015 change so would be really useful to get copy of the old terms so please if no one has nahas hung smart to say don’t say it and no there is no need for us to give more info I’m asking for a simple piece of paper or copy of it scanned either someone can give it and get paid or they can’t. Don’t say 2013 etc doesn’t mention anything about value as if u know it’s a fact without producing the full terms from thier rewards from that time and FYI we’ve spoken to some very lnwoledagble ppl in this area who swear that USA uses to say points have no cash value

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2018, 08:47:01 PM »
Simple u guys claim the 2013 t and c doesn’t say anything about points value great prove it post it or send it to me I’m calling bluff because none of u have an actual copy
Why do you seem to feel that people here owe you something?

What kind of client?
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2018, 08:47:44 PM »
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2018, 08:53:33 PM »
Did you ask them why it's not considered a rebate?

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2018, 08:57:19 PM »
Accounting client.   No one owes us anything we are offering $1100 reward and that not in our face that is not a full terms of rewards from 2013!! Or from an offer at all  That is one random paper from 2013 I posted above how the current offers look on Amex !! Under amount of points offered on second page after that will say on the bottom value of points

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2018, 08:59:59 PM »
Hey listen if u wanna argue with the irs they don’t give a dam what we think and what makes sense to us we need a smoking gun page like the one I’m requesting to end the convo before it starts so either someone has it and we will pay nicely for it or someone doesn’t that’s it I’m checking out for the night will check back tomorrow good luck on someone finding it Hatzlacha  and happy July 4th:)

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2018, 09:01:43 PM »
Accounting client.   No one owes us anything we are offering $1100 reward and that not in our face that is not a full terms of rewards from 2013!! Or from an offer at all  That is one random paper from 2013 I posted above how the current offers look on Amex !! Under amount of points offered on second page after that will say on the bottom value of points
I have cardmember agreement part 1 and 2. Also the supplement card member agreement. Everything that came with the Business Platinum from 12/2013. You want a scan of all of it the price is 5K!!!
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2018, 09:03:00 PM »
Hey listen if u wanna argue with the irs they don’t give a dam what we think and what makes sense to us we need a smoking gun page like the one I’m requesting to end the convo before it starts so either someone has it and we will pay nicely for it or someone doesn’t that’s it I’m checking out for the night will check back tomorrow good luck on someone finding it Hatzlacha  and happy July 4th:)
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2018, 09:05:18 PM »
And Amex can’t “scrub the internet”

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2018, 09:06:12 PM »
Accounting client.   No one owes us anything we are offering $1100 reward and that not in our face that is not a full terms of rewards from 2013!! Or from an offer at all  That is one random paper from 2013 I posted above how the current offers look on Amex !! Under amount of points offered on second page after that will say on the bottom value of points
When you correspond with the IRS do you write the same way you are writing here?
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2018, 09:14:57 PM »
Even if it does have cash value the IRS considers it a rebate. If they're insisting that it"s taxable, it's probably a mistake and you should go to court, I'm not a lawyer but the IRS famously said in 2002 that points are considered a rebate.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2018, 09:16:08 PM »
Even if it does have cash value the IRS considers it a rebate. If they're insisting that it"s taxable, it's probably a mistake and you should go to court, I'm not a lawyer but the IRS famously said in 2002 that points are considered a rebate.
Or there is more background to this.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2018, 09:16:56 PM »
Even if it does have cash value the IRS considers it a rebate. If they're insisting that it"s taxable, it's probably a mistake and you should go to court, I'm not a lawyer but the IRS famously said in 2002 that points are considered a rebate.
What if he sold the points?
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2018, 09:19:36 PM »
What if he sold the points?
What if someone pays you for a rebate card, is it taxable?

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #56 on: July 04, 2018, 09:22:30 PM »
What is you sell a rebate card, is it taxable?
Ask your accountant.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2018, 10:03:10 PM »
AMEX scrubbing the internet? DDF colluding with AMEX? Hysteria involving hidden T&C's from 5 years ago? Vague details about wanting to stop various government organizations "before it becomes an issue?"

Very possible OP is a paranoid schizophrenic.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2018, 10:05:40 PM »
AMEX scrubbing the internet? DDF colluding with AMEX? Hysteria involving hidden T&C's from 5 years ago? Vague details about wanting to stop various government organizations "before it becomes an issue?"

Very possible OP is a paranoid schizophrenic.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2018, 10:16:24 PM »
I don't share this stuff normally, but he did threaten to post it, so I may as well post it first.
Have fun trying to help this guy with helpful advice as I did...







« Last Edit: July 04, 2018, 10:19:41 PM by Dan »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.