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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #80 on: July 05, 2018, 07:21:21 AM »
Nah, I wouldn't accuse him of that. Elimmm seems like a mentsch. I pm'ed back and forth. This may be the accountant, or unrelated.

just to "clear my name"

I didnt start this thread, @Dan can verify by IP, I am not even in the USA now. I posted a $200 award for this info a week or 2 ago, after someone requested it "urgently" by email. I was promised $200 if I find the info. Since I didnt find it myself, I posted the request on a random thread. (I even PMed Dan, but didnt merit a response :) ) No one threatened me, rather someone sent an email begging for the info to help w taxes for his friend. I PMed back and forth w a few fellow DDFers and everyone was only trying to help.
I dont know why or when the negativity started, but i gave up looking for the requested info a while ago. Apparently this fellow (the OP?) is desperate for the info and upset that people arent responding as he expected. Maybe he feels that people r bargaining w him while he is in a situation w IRS. Either way, I dont know the accountant nor his clients. I was only reposting an urgent request that i got by email.
I wish everyone happy hunting (if the t&c wasnt found yet.) And hope people are more respectful, even when they are desperate for help.
                    Wishing y'all good luck, 
(thanks @yelped for letting 'em know that i didnt start this thread)

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #81 on: July 05, 2018, 07:56:14 AM »
nuu where is @Pointsallday  already ?life is getting boring without him!
May you slide down the banister of happiness & get many splinters of success up your career.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #82 on: July 05, 2018, 08:00:02 AM »
nuu where is @Pointsallday  already ?life is getting boring without him!

maybe he got his info already-  any winners of $1k award?  share the wealth! (or at least show us the screenshot)

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #83 on: July 05, 2018, 08:01:22 AM »
just to "clear my name"

I didnt start this thread, @Dan can verify by IP, I am not even in the USA now. I posted a $200 award for this info a week or 2 ago, after someone requested it "urgently" by email. I was promised $200 if I find the info. Since I didnt find it myself, I posted the request on a random thread. (I even PMed Dan, but didnt merit a response :) ) No one threatened me, rather someone sent an email begging for the info to help w taxes for his friend. I PMed back and forth w a few fellow DDFers and everyone was only trying to help.
I dont know why or when the negativity started, but i gave up looking for the requested info a while ago. Apparently this fellow (the OP?) is desperate for the info and upset that people arent responding as he expected. Maybe he feels that people r bargaining w him while he is in a situation w IRS. Either way, I dont know the accountant nor his clients. I was only reposting an urgent request that i got by email.
I wish everyone happy hunting (if the t&c wasnt found yet.) And hope people are more respectful, even when they are desperate for help.
                    Wishing y'all good luck, 
(thanks @yelped for letting 'em know that i didnt start this thread)
you only merit a response if you threaten him
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2018, 08:27:47 AM »
just to "clear my name"

I didnt start this thread, @Dan can verify by IP, I am not even in the USA now. I posted a $200 award for this info a week or 2 ago, after someone requested it "urgently" by email. I was promised $200 if I find the info. Since I didnt find it myself, I posted the request on a random thread. (I even PMed Dan, but didnt merit a response :) ) No one threatened me, rather someone sent an email begging for the info to help w taxes for his friend. I PMed back and forth w a few fellow DDFers and everyone was only trying to help.
I dont know why or when the negativity started, but i gave up looking for the requested info a while ago. Apparently this fellow (the OP?) is desperate for the info and upset that people arent responding as he expected. Maybe he feels that people r bargaining w him while he is in a situation w IRS. Either way, I dont know the accountant nor his clients. I was only reposting an urgent request that i got by email.
I wish everyone happy hunting (if the t&c wasnt found yet.) And hope people are more respectful, even when they are desperate for help.
                    Wishing y'all good luck, 
(thanks @yelped for letting 'em know that i didnt start this thread)
People on DDF are more than happy to help someone in need. But to curse someone who is trying to help simply  because you don't like the answer is not a course of action that will engender future assistance.

FWIW, if OP (or his client, or whoever) is having difficulty with the IRS, I hope he  finds the answer for which he's looking.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2018, 08:42:08 AM »
I don't share this stuff normally, but he did threaten to post it, so I may as well post it first.
Have fun trying to help this guy with helpful advice as I did...

Speechless.

As @henche will likely tell you, OP needs a tax lawyer, not an accountant anymore.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2018, 08:47:30 AM »
you only merit a response if you threaten him

dont give away dan's secret...  now that we all know how to grab his attention we will have to up the ante to get him to respond in the future

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2018, 08:47:47 AM »
Iím
Sorry if anyone felt threatened that was not my intention I feel the focus is in the writing my area Iím
Sorry if spelling on my phone typing while I was driving wasnít up to par with expectations
The focus shouldnít be on why or what but rather how we can help this person
Yes he was. Big biz he sold millions of points every year to one of the big Jewish point companies that is why irs is giving him issues on that income
Again when they decide to audit and they are out to get you they can make u crazy about bunch of small issues and than use it to paint bigger picture the other issues we are resolving and are way easier this si someh Big I have no access to this paper and is not my industry at all but like I said above it says theses words in every country that they age no cash value and even in USA it says under every offer that value depends on use so until I find full rewards terms from 2014 or before not one random page and not someone saying they hve full terms and trying to force us to pay 5k which is taking advantage ppl should give for free but to motivate ppl we are offering nice money again the full terms that came with Plat card is not the full reward terms that can only be found online or because waynack machine whenever clicking on full reward terms do USA either is missing or redirect 20 times till page stops or redirects to anytime past oct 2015 therefore I hve asked this fourum if ppl that are very into credit card offers for someone that might have an actual offer that came in mail in around 2014 that would have saved the second  and third page of the offer that would say the value of the points I Remember myself seeing it when my client asked me about reporting the points etc I looked up terms than and it said points have no cash value I therefore told him than there sound be no issues now my client is blming me saying u said so and I canít back up what I found than with anything online or any saved papers as my client never sav d any offers that came into mail as he wasnít really a card offer guy just got lots of points from biz spending I hope this is clear enough letís keep it civil u guys are all great ppl Iím sorry for any hostility but please if u can help by all means do and if u canít than please donít convince other ppl not too not sure what the point of that is
Thank you and good day u can direct private messages at harveykaplan99@gmail.com I will not be responding to this fourum anymore as Iím legit trying to help someone out and some ppl wanna sit down with box of popcorn and enjoy the show to the person involved itís audits are very scary and a serious thing and he feels the pressure and I take his pressure seriously and was persanoly told by irs that if we bring this terms showing no cash value USA it will wipe off this area all those great arguments ppl have was already given over just  didnít do the job even though I wish it would have

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2018, 09:23:49 AM »
Iím
Sorry if anyone felt threatened that was not my intention I feel the focus is in the writing my area Iím
Sorry if spelling on my phone typing while I was driving wasnít up to par with expectations
The focus shouldnít be on why or what but rather how we can help this person
Yes he was. Big biz he sold millions of points every year to one of the big Jewish point companies that is why irs is giving him issues on that income
Again when they decide to audit and they are out to get you they can make u crazy about bunch of small issues and than use it to paint bigger picture the other issues we are resolving and are way easier this si someh Big I have no access to this paper and is not my industry at all but like I said above it says theses words in every country that they age no cash value and even in USA it says under every offer that value depends on use so until I find full rewards terms from 2014 or before not one random page and not someone saying they hve full terms and trying to force us to pay 5k which is taking advantage ppl should give for free but to motivate ppl we are offering nice money again the full terms that came with Plat card is not the full reward terms that can only be found online or because waynack machine whenever clicking on full reward terms do USA either is missing or redirect 20 times till page stops or redirects to anytime past oct 2015 therefore I hve asked this fourum if ppl that are very into credit card offers for someone that might have an actual offer that came in mail in around 2014 that would have saved the second  and third page of the offer that would say the value of the points I Remember myself seeing it when my client asked me about reporting the points etc I looked up terms than and it said points have no cash value I therefore told him than there sound be no issues now my client is blming me saying u said so and I canít back up what I found than with anything online or any saved papers as my client never sav d any offers that came into mail as he wasnít really a card offer guy just got lots of points from biz spending I hope this is clear enough letís keep it civil u guys are all great ppl Iím sorry for any hostility but please if u can help by all means do and if u canít than please donít convince other ppl not too not sure what the point of that is
Thank you and good day u can direct private messages at harveykaplan99@gmail.com I will not be responding to this fourum anymore as Iím legit trying to help someone out and some ppl wanna sit down with box of popcorn and enjoy the show to the person involved itís audits are very scary and a serious thing and he feels the pressure and I take his pressure seriously and was persanoly told by irs that if we bring this terms showing no cash value USA it will wipe off this area all those great arguments ppl have was already given over just  didnít do the job even though I wish it would have
this you also wrote when you were driving?

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2018, 09:33:52 AM »
My eyes hurt.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2018, 09:39:39 AM »
That was one long sentence.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2018, 09:41:52 AM »
Iím
Sorry if anyone felt threatened that was not my intention I feel the focus is in the writing my area Iím
Sorry if spelling on my phone typing while I was driving wasnít up to par with expectations
The focus shouldnít be on why or what but rather how we can help this person
Yes he was. Big biz he sold millions of points every year to one of the big Jewish point companies that is why irs is giving him issues on that income
Again when they decide to audit and they are out to get you they can make u crazy about bunch of small issues and than use it to paint bigger picture the other issues we are resolving and are way easier this si someh Big I have no access to this paper and is not my industry at all but like I said above it says theses words in every country that they age no cash value and even in USA it says under every offer that value depends on use so until I find full rewards terms from 2014 or before not one random page and not someone saying they hve full terms and trying to force us to pay 5k which is taking advantage ppl should give for free but to motivate ppl we are offering nice money again the full terms that came with Plat card is not the full reward terms that can only be found online or because waynack machine whenever clicking on full reward terms do USA either is missing or redirect 20 times till page stops or redirects to anytime past oct 2015 therefore I hve asked this fourum if ppl that are very into credit card offers for someone that might have an actual offer that came in mail in around 2014 that would have saved the second  and third page of the offer that would say the value of the points I Remember myself seeing it when my client asked me about reporting the points etc I looked up terms than and it said points have no cash value I therefore told him than there sound be no issues now my client is blming me saying u said so and I canít back up what I found than with anything online or any saved papers as my client never sav d any offers that came into mail as he wasnít really a card offer guy just got lots of points from biz spending I hope this is clear enough letís keep it civil u guys are all great ppl Iím sorry for any hostility but please if u can help by all means do and if u canít than please donít convince other ppl not too not sure what the point of that is
Thank you and good day u can direct private messages at harveykaplan99@gmail.com I will not be responding to this fourum anymore as Iím legit trying to help someone out and some ppl wanna sit down with box of popcorn and enjoy the show to the person involved itís audits are very scary and a serious thing and he feels the pressure and I take his pressure seriously and was persanoly told by irs that if we bring this terms showing no cash value USA it will wipe off this area all those great arguments ppl have was already given over just  didnít do the job even though I wish it would have
I have the T&C's from 12/2013. No where does it say anything about the value of the points one way or the other. If it did I would gladly give them to you to help. Anyone here that has dealt with me knows the 5k was a joke. I would not charge you a single dime, that is just who I am.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2018, 09:42:08 AM »
That was one long sentence.

I wouldn't know. I stopped halfway through.

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #93 on: July 05, 2018, 09:43:08 AM »
I have the T&C's from 12/2013. No where does it say anything about the value of the points one way or the other. If it did I would gladly give them to you to help. Anyone here that has dealt with me knows the 5k was a joke. I would not charge you a single dime, that is just who I am.

Now I am pissed I never did your 30k NDA  >:(

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #94 on: July 05, 2018, 09:45:48 AM »
Hasnít it been established that selling points for cash isnít considered a ďrebateĒ anymore ?

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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #95 on: July 05, 2018, 09:46:45 AM »
As @henche will likely tell you, OP needs a tax lawyer, not an accountant anymore.
...and the tax lawyer will tell him something he will not like.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2018, 09:48:00 AM »
Hasnít it been established that selling points for cash isnít considered a ďrebateĒ anymore ?
Non MSed points? Hasn't been established here.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2018, 09:50:18 AM »
Non MSed points? Hasn't been established here.
There is no difference.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2018, 09:52:36 AM »
Let's just say that I am happy this is not my accountant.
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Re: Amex 2014 Terms and Conditions
« Reply #99 on: July 05, 2018, 09:53:07 AM »


There is no difference.



The case may be different when you are MSing, as it is what I believe is called an extension of wealth, that when you walk out with more money then you came in with you have income.

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