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Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« on: July 09, 2018, 07:41:50 AM »
Guess what? Elal blamed "Chareidim" for not wanting to sit next to women, for the 1 hour delay 2 weeks ago. This was subsequently world news on all news sites, full of Chareidi and Frum bashing.
Well apparently, not surprisingly, it was just a stinking ploy. Elal had "technical" issues on the flight, and instead of taking blame for their own failures, chose to instead blame the Frum passengers, with a made up bube maaseh! If that wasn't enough, with unabashed Israeli Chutzpah, the Elal CEO came out with a statement a short while later, that they will just throw Chareidim off their flights, who cause delays, because they choose to uphold Halacah and not sit next to women. This, even though it was all based on a lie!

http://www.bhol.co.il/news/927221 http://www.kolhazman.co.il/320760

Shame on us all!

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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 08:20:06 AM »
no chance this will receive any media attention.
anyone know why there is so much hate towards another Jewish company ?
this should be enough of an answer
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 08:22:37 AM »
I had a hard time believing from the beginning that it was delayed more than an hour because of the seating issue.

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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 08:26:57 AM »
It's also unfortunate that 'we' give them such an easy excuse to use seeing as it does happen often.
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 08:28:57 AM »
It's also unfortunate that 'we' give them such an easy excuse to use seeing as it does happen often.

There you go again, more Chareidi bashing. Why? Seriously, why?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 08:32:04 AM »
There you go again, more Chareidi bashing. Why? Seriously, why?
How is stating facts bashing?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 08:32:22 AM »
Not trying to bash.
And I'm curious why this problem causes you to speak out while the original problem they're 'hiding' behind doesn't.
This an issue I've seen with my own eyes numerous times.


Again, like I said...it's just unfortunate.




I'm not speaking out against 'charedim' btw... though you're right .. it's mostly them doing these things.. but not all charedim do this.    But they are Jews... And as a fellow Jew it's embarrassing  and a major chilul Hashem.
There you go again, more Chareidi bashing. Why? Seriously, why?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 08:50:01 AM »
Not trying to bash.
But you are, because your blaming the "chareidim", even though their the victim here, for being victimized by an anti Torah press, and an anti frum Elal.

And I'm curious why this problem causes you to speak out while the original problem they're 'hiding' behind doesn't.
This an issue I've seen with my own eyes numerous times.

I speak out because this is an untruth where my fellow brothers have been besmirched time and time again by the secular and even so called frum press. I speak out, for there is hardly anyone to speak truth. There is enough to people to attack and besmirch the frum, but for truth, unfortunately not that many.

What do you mean by "their hiding behind"? What problem are they hiding behind?


I'm not speaking out against 'charedim' btw... though you're right .. it's mostly them doing these things.. but not all charedim do this.

There you go attack the Chareidim again...

But they are Jews... And as a fellow Jew it's embarrassing  and a major chilul Hashem.

1. Please don't be so embarrassed to be a Jew. Try to work on your confidence a bit, instead of being embarrassed by what other Jews do? Perhaps their trying to be more makpid on certain mitzvos and issurim that your not being makpid on, so is that a Chillul Hashem?
2. What defines a Chillul Hashem? Is putting on Teffilin in an airport or on a plane a Chillul hashem? It's definitely weired and archaic, no? Is not touching foreign women a Chiillul hashem? It's definitely something secular western society frowns upon. It's also definitely awkward when a women sticks her hand out to shake yours, and you don't shake it. Isn't that a Chillul Hashem, because it looks weired and it could embarrass her?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 08:59:28 AM »
It's also unfortunate that 'we' give them such an easy excuse to use seeing as it does happen often.
How many other times was it inaccurate just like this time?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 09:04:25 AM »
How many other times was it inaccurate just like this time?
How many other times has it happened and never been reported?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 09:04:36 AM »
Times in the news? Don't know. Times that others have personally told me or that I've seen myself?
How many other times was it inaccurate just like this time?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 09:07:49 AM »
How many other times has it happened and never been reported?
In the year 2018 ? 0

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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 09:08:07 AM »
How many other times has it happened and never been reported?

Mr. Moskowitz,
Please, this is a serious thread. With all due respect, please take your trolling to any of the other thousand threads your currently trolling in, and leave this one for the rest of us, for a normal serious discussion.
Thank you.
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 09:09:22 AM »
In the year 2018 ? 0
That is pretty hard to believe. How would you know unless you were on every flight?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 09:09:53 AM »
Times in the news? Don't know. Times that others have personally told me or that I've seen myself?

See what yourself? Frum people asking to switch seats? or 1 hour delays for refusing to sit next to women?
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 09:10:30 AM »
That is pretty hard to believe. How would you know unless you were on every flight?
Because almost everyone on any given flight has a smartphone with numerous social media accounts that need constant feeding

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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 09:12:22 AM »
How many other times has it happened and never been reported?
A flight delayed someone for a Chareidi playing games to change seats? Oh if it happens we'd know.
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 09:13:10 AM »
Mr. Moskowitz,
Please, this is a serious thread. With all due respect, please take your trolling to any of the other thousand threads your currently trolling in, and leave this one for the rest of us, for a normal serious discussion.
Thank you.
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You want a serious discussion about ElAl lying about this incident that is fair game. I am with you 100%. If you think it is bashing a religious group because they want to impose their religion on others then I am here to stay.
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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 09:16:12 AM »
Typical to see some people take their bigoted stereotypes and make this about the victim.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Shame! ElAl Blames Chareidim In Vain
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 09:18:31 AM »
Typical to see some people take their bigoted stereotypes and make this about the victim.
Who is the victim?
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