Halacha Of Cruises Departing Wednesday-Friday

[Dan]

rav moshes argument was that even if it is a davar shebiminyan, govertment makes it chalav yisrael
this is not the place for this to develop into a C"Y discussion, just saying it wouldnt fit into this category

Can you explain why it doesn't fit?
There was a problem, but it no longer applies today (because people that don't trust their government for beans trusts them on matters of religion despite the government saying they don't actually enforce that).

[Mordyk]

its an informative thread. please dont turn it into cholov yisroel thread.   

but i have wanted to take cruises many times.  there are so many issues that make me uncomfortable regarding shabbos...

[Dan]

its an informative thread. please dont turn it into cholov yisroel thread.   

but i have wanted to take cruises many times.  there are so many issues that make me uncomfortable regarding shabbos...

Namely?

[DTM]

Here is something else to think about: When Chazal said that boarding earlier in the week is ok, weren’t they speaking of non-stop trips continuing on through into Shabbos? Would that exception apply if there were stops for exit and re boarding on Thursday or Friday?

[Mordyk]

Namely?

in a hotel you can choose to do whatever you want so even if all around are going about their life its ok if you just sit tight. but on a cruise most people are getting off on shabbos. its just a kinda weird situation.

[aygart]

Can you explain why it doesn't fit?
There was a problem, but it no longer applies today (because people that don't trust their government for beans trusts them on matters of religion despite the government saying they don't actually enforce that).

R Moshe is that the govt regulation fulfills the requirements of chazal not the the requirements don't apply.

[Dan]

in a hotel you can choose to do whatever you want so even if all around are going about their life its ok if you just sit tight. but on a cruise most people are getting off on shabbos. its just a kinda weird situation.

So go with a Jewish group?

[whYME]

cruises today don't have the seasick issues of boats in the past.

Some areas e.g. the Drake passage are notorious for being particularly rough. I have no idea how modern cruise ships do in such water, it might still be a non-issue.

[nirc]

I've noticed that Kosherica has several cruises that depart on Wednesday-Friday.

Does the halacha of not boarding a boat from Wednesday-Friday no longer apply on today's cruises?

Per Chabad

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/484239/jewish/May-I-go-on-a-cruise-on-Shabbat.htm