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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #500 on: April 05, 2021, 12:51:55 PM »
And how does the data show that?
If the data shows that low income is caused by single parenthood then that is being caused by behavior.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #501 on: April 05, 2021, 12:52:52 PM »
If the data shows that low income is caused by single parenthood
How would it show that?
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #502 on: April 05, 2021, 12:56:52 PM »
How would it show that?
That is why I wrote "if". I understand the point you made in this post.
How can you extrapolate from the data what is the cause and what is the effect? The data would just as well support the opposite conclusion that having low income makes you more likely to have a child out of wedlock?
but understood that you weren't asking about the premise but rather that even accepting the premise it shouldn't show that. If you were asking the same question as before on the premise then I misunderstood.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #503 on: April 05, 2021, 01:02:18 PM »
While it may be victimhood, it is individual victimhood and not that the person is victimized due to race or ethnicity.
The question then is if the increased tendency for single parenthood was caused by slavery and historic oppression.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #504 on: April 05, 2021, 01:08:26 PM »
The question then is if the increased tendency for single parenthood was caused by slavery and historic oppression.


Agreed, but then it is a question of past victimhood and not a present one and has very different ramifications.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #505 on: April 05, 2021, 02:19:28 PM »
The question then is if the increased tendency for single parenthood was caused by slavery and historic oppression.
Are you seriously not at all familiar with this topic?
Why donít you research when single parent families in the African American community became a pandemic in this country

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #506 on: April 05, 2021, 02:45:33 PM »
Are you seriously not at all familiar with this topic?
Why donít you research when single parent families in the African American community became a pandemic in this country

Or listen to what Thomas Sowell has to say on the topic.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #507 on: April 05, 2021, 03:18:23 PM »
Are you seriously not at all familiar with this topic?
Why donít you research when single parent families in the African American community became a pandemic in this country
Maybe you can enlighten us on how the trends of single parenthood among blacks has diverged from the trends among whites. Make sure to calculate for differences in population such as using births per 1000 women.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #508 on: April 05, 2021, 03:56:15 PM »
Are you seriously not at all familiar with this topic?
Why donít you research when single parent families in the African American community became a pandemic in this country
White births out of wedlock have been increasing faster than black births out of wedlock for close to 100 years.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #509 on: April 05, 2021, 04:14:20 PM »
White births out of wedlock have been increasing faster than black births out of wedlock for close to 100 years.

So many reasons, some of which:

1. Birth out of wedlock has been normalized
2. Marriage happens later or not at all
3. Shift in values amongst all demographics including whites
4. Larger mixed or other low-class demographics that self-identifies as white

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #510 on: April 05, 2021, 04:17:24 PM »
So many reasons, some of which:

1. Birth out of wedlock has been normalized
2. Marriage happens later or not at all
3. Shift in values amongst all demographics including whites
4. Larger mixed or other low-class demographics that self-identifies as white
This can almost be summed up in one word-contraceptives.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #512 on: April 06, 2021, 09:37:26 AM »
This can almost be summed up in one word-contraceptives.

Thatís oversimplified. Thereís this whole mindset that comes with it, along with sex-ed promoting that mindset.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #513 on: April 06, 2021, 10:15:00 AM »
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #514 on: April 06, 2021, 10:24:40 AM »
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Infrastructure or not, it's utterly ridiculous that we're investing in a technology that can be replaced by something way more efficient in the near future.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #515 on: April 06, 2021, 10:36:03 AM »
Thatís oversimplified. Thereís this whole mindset that comes with it, along with sex-ed promoting that mindset.
Well, of course, how could a one word summary for such a complex topic not be oversimplified?
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #516 on: April 06, 2021, 11:35:34 AM »
Thatís oversimplified. Thereís this whole mindset that comes with it, along with sex-ed promoting that mindset.

Sex-ed, from what I can tell, is largely a response by the establishment to the failure of parents
to effectively teach their children either abstinence or how to not get [each other] pregnant.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #517 on: April 06, 2021, 12:39:15 PM »
Sex-ed, from what I can tell, is largely a response by the establishment to the failure of parents
to effectively teach their children either abstinence or how to not get [each other] pregnant.

Sex-ed was a intentional effort to eradicate abstinence from American vocabulary.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #518 on: April 06, 2021, 01:44:22 PM »
Infrastructure or not, it's utterly ridiculous that we're investing in a technology that can be replaced by something way more efficient in the near future.
What are you referring to?

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #519 on: April 06, 2021, 02:20:03 PM »
What are you referring to?
Starlink.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.