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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #90 on: October 05, 2018, 10:57:06 AM »
I think you're missing the point here.
The whole point is he believes the current law is immoral and unconstitutional.
No I am not missing that point. I have no problem with his beliefs. Like I said he believes in individual rights when he agrees with them. If he truly believed in individuals rights he would support them even when he disagrees with them.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #91 on: October 05, 2018, 11:00:17 AM »
Until that law is changed a women has a right to choose.
The point is he believes the current law is immoral and unconstitutional.


If he truly believed in individuals rights he would support them even when he disagrees with them.
Um, no.
He believes the governments one real job/responsibility is protect the life and liberty of it's citizens. And no, he doesn't believe in the woman's right to choose to murder an unborn child.
no, he believes in an individuals rights as long as they don't infringe on someone else's rights. i.e.  something along the lines of "your right to swing your fist ends were my face starts."

In other words his view on abortion doesn't contradict his view on rights/limited government in general.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #92 on: October 05, 2018, 11:00:21 AM »
No I am not missing that point. I have no problem with his beliefs. Like I said he believes in individual rights when he agrees with them. If he truly believed in individuals rights he would support them even when he disagrees with them.
Is there a topic about which you will argue in good faith?
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #94 on: October 05, 2018, 11:03:34 AM »
I believe a child's life begins at conception. The law does not agree with me. Until that law is changed a women has a right to choose.
He along with many millions of other Americans believe that the government should not be deciding and creating laws that should govern what woman do with their bodies, and he believes that woman who abort their babies are essentially murdering them. Thatís all
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #95 on: October 05, 2018, 11:04:19 AM »
Is there a topic about which you will argue in good faith?
So you are saying I never show good faith on a topic.  ::)
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #96 on: October 05, 2018, 11:11:34 AM »
@ChaimMoskowitz did you see this?
No and did you see this post?
I believe a child's life begins at conception.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #97 on: October 05, 2018, 11:12:39 AM »
No and did you see this post?
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #98 on: October 05, 2018, 11:15:02 AM »
Let's stick you in North Korea for a little if you don't appreciate our democracy
What are you talking about. You are the one that has a problem with our laws.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #99 on: October 05, 2018, 11:15:49 AM »
What are you talking about. You are the one that has a problem with our laws.
Exactly. And the way this country works is laws can change
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #100 on: October 05, 2018, 11:16:31 AM »
He along with many millions of other Americans believe that the government should not be deciding and creating laws that should govern what woman do with their bodies, and he believes that woman who abort their babies are essentially murdering them. Thatís all
His mantra is: Facts don't care about feelings.
Is believing abortion is murder a fact or a feeling?
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2018, 11:16:57 AM »
His mantra is: Facts don't care about feelings.
Is believing abortion is murder a fact or a feeling?
Fact
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2018, 11:18:18 AM »
Exactly. And the way this country works is laws can change
I guess you didn't read this point either.
Until that law is changed a women has a right to choose.
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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2018, 11:18:47 AM »
Is believing abortion is murder a fact or a feeling?
he believes the facts back him up.

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Re: Ben Shapiro
« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2018, 11:19:11 AM »
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