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tmendy226: 1
a good yeshiva bachur: 1
crony: 1
Zevi16: 1
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mendyt: 1
EJB:

https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/enter-win-twin-cabin-aboard-journey-lifetime-antarctica-5000-cash-private-consult-supporting-chabad-cleveland/

https://www.chabadofcleveland.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/4096324/jewish/Antarctica-Cruise-Raffle.htm

Add your name if you will purchase a $100 raffle ticket for the Antarctica trip.

If you will buy more than 1 write it next to your user name:


1 - CM
2 - yossig
3 - JoeyShmoe
4 - Yitzyul 
5 - Wizmanison (2)
6 - Bentzy
7-  mendyt
8-  jes
9- nafnaf12
10- lubaby (2)
12-abey
13- Z56
14 - crony
15 - stever (2)
« Last edited by EJB on August 16, 2018, 02:37:35 AM »

Poll

Which amount and format would you buy in at? (vote for one of each)

50%+ to Charity
11 (8.7%)
10-15% to Charity
3 (2.4%)
Any amount to Charity
18 (14.3%)
I don't care if my money goes to charity
19 (15.1%)
Variable ticket prices $1-$360 chosen at random
11 (8.7%)
I wouldn't buy in at more than $150-$180
10 (7.9%)
I wouldn't buy in at more than $100-$150
15 (11.9%)
$100 is my max
39 (31%)

Total Members Voted: 85

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2018, 12:29:58 AM »
Do it with a charity, limit the number of tickets, let DDFer's buy first then, if it's not sold out, post on DDMS. That solves all the problems and still gives DDF an advantage.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #161 on: July 25, 2018, 12:59:44 AM »
Just a thought - If there is a cash option, somebody who may have really wanted to join & ends up winning may not be able to justify to themselves taking the trip instead of $18k (or wtvr it will be). Maybe there should only be a cruise option & if the winner can’t come you pick a new winner.
How about if the winner can't come and decides to donate it to another charity to raffle off?
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #162 on: July 25, 2018, 01:04:41 AM »
At the rate this thread is going we'll need to add around 42 more options to the poll.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2018, 07:53:37 AM »
At the rate this thread is going we'll need to add around 42 more options to the poll.

You should have planned the Antarctica trip with DDF as well

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #164 on: July 25, 2018, 08:14:41 AM »
Add enough money for a tax gross up.  So make the prize be about 1.5x or 1.6x the cost of the trip, so that you'll soap have enough to pay taxes

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #165 on: July 25, 2018, 08:24:20 AM »
You want me to pay for someone else to go and pay his taxes as well  >:(

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #166 on: July 25, 2018, 08:32:22 AM »
Add enough money for a tax gross up.  So make the prize be about 1.5x or 1.6x the cost of the trip, so that you'll soap have enough to pay taxes

I though a non-profit fixed that? None of these Chinese auctions and such go around giving 1099s...
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #167 on: July 25, 2018, 08:39:56 AM »
I though a non-profit fixed that? None of these Chinese auctions and such go around giving 1099s...
many do give 1099's
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #168 on: July 25, 2018, 09:37:27 AM »
many do give 1099's

and no tax receipt

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #169 on: July 25, 2018, 09:53:53 AM »


Just a thought - If there is a cash option, somebody who may have really wanted to join & ends up winning may not be able to justify to themselves taking the trip instead of $18k (or wtvr it will be). Maybe there should only be a cruise option & if the winner can’t come you pick a new winner.

Dan's idea of making a big value difference between the cruise and cash prize would presumably prevent this..

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #170 on: July 25, 2018, 01:37:28 PM »
At the rate this thread is going we'll need to add around 42 more options to the poll.
Forget the poll and just make a decision.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #171 on: July 25, 2018, 02:46:38 PM »
This thread is basically what happens when government attempts to create a raffle.

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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #172 on: July 25, 2018, 03:30:17 PM »
This thread is basically what happens when government attempts to create a raffle.
Lol. I was looking for opinions. I got what I needed, and was going to go ahead and start something, but Dan seems to have taken the reins. I'll leave it in his hands.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #173 on: July 25, 2018, 03:34:36 PM »
The taxes are a big problem in my mind.
Probably need to offer 2 cruise berths and at least $10,000 in cash. Going to be tough to sell enough tickets to make a profit I think.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #174 on: July 25, 2018, 03:43:24 PM »
The taxes are a big problem in my mind.
Probably need to offer 2 cruise berths and at least $10,000 in cash. Going to be tough to sell enough tickets to make a profit I think.
So why not do a single spot on the cruise?
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2018, 03:56:27 PM »
So why not do a single spot on the cruise?
That probably limits who would enter the raffle, no?
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #176 on: July 25, 2018, 04:03:26 PM »
That probably limits who would enter the raffle, no?
Double edge sword. Some might only want one ticket.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #177 on: July 25, 2018, 04:31:44 PM »
Double edge sword. Some might only want one ticket.
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #178 on: July 25, 2018, 04:35:40 PM »
What you do is have participants state whether they want to enter a ticket for 1 spot or 2 spots.

At the drawing, if a 2 spot ticket is drawn, the game is over. If a 1 spot ticket is drawn, draw more tickets until another 1 spot ticket is drawn.

Would have to come up with a model to fairly price the tickets but I'm thinking the relative price of the 1 vs 2 spot tickets would be dependent on their distribution. You'd also have to assign the relative values of the prizes. 2 spots is more than 2x the value of 1 spot, correct?
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Re: Antarctica Cruise Raffle (discussion?)
« Reply #179 on: July 25, 2018, 04:39:19 PM »
What you do is have participants state whether they want to enter a ticket for 1 spot or 2 spots.

At the drawing, if a 2 spot ticket is drawn, the game is over. If a 1 spot ticket is drawn, draw more tickets until another 1 spot ticket is drawn.

Would have to come up with a model to fairly price the tickets but I'm thinking the relative price of the 1 vs 2 spot tickets would be dependent on their distribution. You'd also have to assign the relative values of the prizes. 2 spots is more than 2x the value of 1 spot, correct?
And then we also need to offer money to at least defray the cost of the flight to USH and the taxes. It all adds up to a lot.
Why are 2 spots more valuable than 1 spot?
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