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as2: 2
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crony: 1
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https://www.dansdeals.com/advertisement/enter-win-twin-cabin-aboard-journey-lifetime-antarctica-5000-cash-private-consult-supporting-chabad-cleveland/

https://www.chabadofcleveland.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/4096324/jewish/Antarctica-Cruise-Raffle.htm

Add your name if you will purchase a $100 raffle ticket for the Antarctica trip.

If you will buy more than 1 write it next to your user name:


1 - CM
2 - yossig
3 - JoeyShmoe
4 - Yitzyul 
5 - Wizmanison (2)
6 - Bentzy
7-  mendyt
8-  jes
9- nafnaf12
10- lubaby (2)
12-abey
13- Z56
14 - crony
15 - stever (2)
« Last edited by EJB on August 16, 2018, 02:37:35 AM »

Poll

Which amount and format would you buy in at? (vote for one of each)

50%+ to Charity
11 (8.7%)
10-15% to Charity
3 (2.4%)
Any amount to Charity
18 (14.3%)
I don't care if my money goes to charity
19 (15.1%)
Variable ticket prices $1-$360 chosen at random
11 (8.7%)
I wouldn't buy in at more than $150-$180
10 (7.9%)
I wouldn't buy in at more than $100-$150
15 (11.9%)
$100 is my max
39 (31%)

Total Members Voted: 85

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #360 on: August 09, 2018, 08:02:21 PM »
I'm not going to retweet it ever day like day 1.

Maybe sticky at the top of MS?

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #361 on: August 09, 2018, 08:09:23 PM »
I'm told that as of 7am:
182 tickets sold for $18,082.
The problem is, everyone was doing the calculations for one ticket. Adding a second ticket is pointless IMO because most people entering the raffle are happy with just one.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #362 on: August 09, 2018, 08:45:09 PM »
most people entering the raffle are happy with just one.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #363 on: August 09, 2018, 08:46:44 PM »
In a powerball I'd buy 1. After all, the odds as near zero either way.

In a charity raffle where each additional tickets actually significantly increases your odds, things are different.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #364 on: August 09, 2018, 08:49:56 PM »
The problem is, everyone was doing the calculations for one ticket. Adding a second ticket is pointless IMO because most people entering the raffle are happy with just one.

In a powerball I'd buy 1. After all, the odds as near zero either way.

In a charity raffle where each additional tickets actually significantly increases your odds, things are different.

I understood Dr Moose as saying "everyone was doing the calculations for one ticket" - on the cruise, not a ticket in the auction. Instead of $30k prize, to be a $15k prize, with that it would need less tickets sold.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #365 on: August 09, 2018, 08:51:09 PM »
I understood Dr Moose as saying "everyone was doing the calculations for one ticket" - on the cruise, not a ticket in the auction. Instead of $30k prize, to be a $15k prize, with that it would need less tickets sold.
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The majority of people on the trip are couples, so I don't think that's correct.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #366 on: August 09, 2018, 08:53:32 PM »


The majority of people on the trip are couples, so I don't think that's correct.

Exactly my thoughts

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #367 on: August 09, 2018, 08:58:26 PM »
I understood Dr Moose as saying "everyone was doing the calculations for one ticket" - on the cruise, not a ticket in the auction. Instead of $30k prize, to be a $15k prize, with that it would need less tickets sold.
That's correct.

The majority of people on the trip are couples, so I don't think that's correct.
That is irrelevant to those who are buying tickets, as I'm just guessing that most people joining the raffle weren't planning on bringing their spouse even if they win. I may be wrong though, this is just based on the few people I've spoken to.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #368 on: August 09, 2018, 09:00:00 PM »
That is irrelevant to those who are buying tickets, as I'm just guessing that most people joining the raffle weren't planning on bringing their spouse even if they win. I may be wrong though, this is just based on the few people I've spoken to.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #369 on: August 09, 2018, 09:27:15 PM »
That's correct.
That is irrelevant to those who are buying tickets, as I'm just guessing that most people joining the raffle weren't planning on bringing their spouse even if they win. I may be wrong though, this is just based on the few people I've spoken to.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #370 on: August 10, 2018, 01:55:06 AM »
In a powerball I'd buy 1.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #371 on: August 10, 2018, 01:37:03 PM »
That's the goal. I'm just not sure we'll make it there.

Why so pessimistic ;)  Also what is the goal? How many tickets have to be sold and if im using Masser I need to know how much is going to charity.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #372 on: August 10, 2018, 01:45:03 PM »
if im using Masser I need to know how much is going to charity.
Do you know how much goes to a collector at your door vs the charity?
Or how much for any other raffle or chinese auction goes to the charity?
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #373 on: August 10, 2018, 02:10:43 PM »
Do you know how much goes to a collector at your door vs the charity?
Or how much for any other raffle or chinese auction goes to the charity?

Ummm yes and I always ask. Also most Chinese auctions are donated and most fundraisers overhead is listed or is furnished upon request.

And Im happy to for my own accounting know that $20 of my $100 to the collector is his commission and most are honest about it. I also don't answer Tzedeka telemarketers as most take a massive cut so I go straight to the org.

If im required to give Masser and you also listed Maser can be used many people will assume its the full 100...if I buy a ticket for $100 and $5 goes to tzedaka, I would like to know that....nothing wrong with that but I need to be able to account my personal Masser and know that only $5 will count.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #374 on: August 10, 2018, 02:14:10 PM »
Ummm yes and I always ask. Also most Chinese auctions are donated and most fundraisers overhead is listed or is furnished upon request.

And Im happy to for my own accounting know that $20 of my $100 to the collector is his commission and most are honest about it. I also don't answer Tzedeka telemarketers as most take a massive cut so I go straight to the org.

If im required to give Masser and you also listed Maser can be used many people will assume its the full 100...if I buy a ticket for $100 and $5 goes to tzedaka, I would like to know that....nothing wrong with that but I need to be able to account my personal Masser and know that only $5 will count.
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #375 on: August 10, 2018, 02:18:09 PM »

Great talk. Totally changed my perspective.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #377 on: August 10, 2018, 02:41:57 PM »
I will watch this after Shabbat but will this answer the question of if its ok to be offering Halachic advise and making assumptions that this is like any Chinese auction and by virtue ok to use Massr?

Alot of times the prizes are donated in-kind.

Dan please don't take offense but if by that token one could use Masser without knowing how much is going to the charity then we can all create loopholes, make a blind trust whereof our 10 percent all goes back to us with a small amount going to a charity.

Just like a tx receipt for a dinner that is $360 may say $300 (subtracting the dinner) so to one (I would assume) needs to subtract the cost ... obviously when you donat there is overhead and for a food bank half of your donation can go to salaried employees but when it is something your experiencing for your benefit and not admin costs etc. ( a dinner, contest ect. you should have to subtract).

If your going to be implying that you could use Maser please reveal how much is going to the org.

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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #378 on: August 10, 2018, 02:55:06 PM »
Ummm yes and I always ask.
They tell you what they spend on the raffle website? On advertising? On salaries? On cc processing?
Where do you draw the line?
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Re: Now Live! Antarctica Cruise Raffle
« Reply #379 on: August 10, 2018, 02:56:33 PM »
If your going to be implying that you could use Maser please reveal how much is going to the org.
I haven't implied anything other than TTYLOR. I'm just curious how it's possible to drill down into every donation what percentage of it it actual "charity."
I can't tell you what percentage will go to the charity until we know how many tickets were sold.
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