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Wood
Pros: Cheap
         Easy to change shape or size as your needs for space change
         DIY - most people would be able to build it from scratch or make modifications (e.g. add windows)
         Can be converted to chazzon ish (replace metal screws with peg screws)
         Can integrate a schlock to the structure
Cons: Heavy, Can warp over time. (note: if you use enough fasteners and are also careful to assemble it balanced this can be minimized)
         Needs lots of storage space

Fiberglass
Pros: Easy Setup (on level ground)
         Length/width is reconfigurable (you just need to buy a few 2x4 beams if you change layout)
Cons: Expensive
         Greenhouse effect on hot days (need to budget for several open/shut windows)
         Connection threads can become bent even with proper storage (need to budget for the odd panel replacement here and there)
         Can Crack or Break

Canvas
Pros: Setup in minutes
Cons: Not accepted by all poskim
         Poor protection from cold Weather
         Wind Can be bothersome.


SUPER CHEAP DIY SUKKAH
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Author Topic: Best Sukkah?  (Read 65016 times)

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #255 on: October 22, 2016, 09:30:08 PM »
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #256 on: October 23, 2016, 12:05:29 PM »
Yes
can you post a pic without the sukkah to get a a better idea?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #257 on: October 23, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
I have a rather large sukkah, with several mats required to cover it. IME if the wind manages to get to an edge, the mat will act as a sail. That's a pretty powerful force and could sometimes overcome the 2x4s (I guess that is unless you put quite a few of them, not only one or two). I've tried many things with varying degrees of success. Ever since I decided to put evergreen around the perimeter I have never had any wind move my mats.
That's why you put the 2x4's along the edges. It's not so many pieces of wood that way, and it's more secure. Bonus points if you zip-tie the top and bottom 2x4's together, sandwiching the mats - that thing ain't budging an inch.

I used strips of lulav this year. My sukkah is on a raised deck (10+ feet off the ground) and at the back of my attached house (anyone who live in KGH knows that the shared driveway/alleys are like wind tunnels), but survived some pretty intense wind already.
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.

I saw two canvas succas today destroyed
You probably mean LED tubes, or LED shoplights. Florescent and LED are different types of light sources. Either way, there's no real rule of thumb. You can find badly made florescent fixtures and well made LED's. You could be buying the wrong type for your usage as well.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #258 on: October 23, 2016, 01:25:14 PM »
can you post a pic without the sukkah to get a a better idea?
Do you mean of the deck without the succah? Sure
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #259 on: October 23, 2016, 01:26:11 PM »
You probably mean LED tubes, or LED shoplights. Florescent and LED are different types of light sources. Either way, there's no real rule of thumb. You can find badly made florescent fixtures and well made LED's. You could be buying the wrong type for your usage as well.
I got something from Sunlite. All the hardware stores were pushing that.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #260 on: October 23, 2016, 01:47:38 PM »
I got something from Sunlite. All the hardware stores were pushing that.
I assume you mean this:
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-LFX-SHOP-48W-120-277/dp/B00NMIT7W4

It's rated for damp location, not as waterproof. I'm not saying it's okay for it to conk out at first drop, but it's not intended to power through water pooling in the light.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #261 on: October 23, 2016, 02:00:05 PM »
I assume you mean this:
https://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-LFX-SHOP-48W-120-277/dp/B00NMIT7W4

It's rated for damp location, not as waterproof. I'm not saying it's okay for it to conk out at first drop, but it's not intended to power through water pooling in the light.
Something like that

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #262 on: October 23, 2016, 02:24:59 PM »
Do you mean of the deck without the succah? Sure
Yep
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #263 on: October 23, 2016, 04:03:22 PM »
my 4x6 canvas sukka completely collapsed on shabbos
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #264 on: October 23, 2016, 04:04:30 PM »
my 4x6 canvas sukka completely collapsed on shabbos
I know of a lieters sukkah that collapsed on shabbos. The winds where very strong.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #265 on: October 26, 2016, 08:10:28 AM »
I've gotten a few questions about the construction of the succah I posted earlier so here are some pictures of various aspects of its construction.



Total size is 24x14

There is a frame built into the deck which stays up all year as well as a support for the schach. The light fixtures are outdoor fixtures which also stay up all year.



This part stays up against the house all year as well.



Here you can see the way the light is set up with a two gang switch in an outdoor box with a plug attached to the existing outdoor outlet allowing us to attach a timer.



Panels on the top and bottom are held in place by turn buckles



The bottom panels have 2 on each side while the top ones have one since the top slides into a slot.



The bottom of the door stays up all year while the top get screwed on each year




I see that the hinge got bent this year-probably by my two year old who figured out how to open the top without the bottom



The bottom door panel is held on by attaching two pieces of 2x4 with turn buckles on the outside



A general picture from the outside

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #266 on: October 26, 2016, 08:42:31 AM »


I've gotten a few questions about the construction of the succah I posted earlier so here are some pictures of various aspects of its construction.
Wow.

How many man hours did that take you?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #267 on: October 26, 2016, 08:53:14 AM »
Wow.

How many man hours did that take you?
zero. As I had written earlier I hired a guy Doug to build it and extend my deck.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #268 on: October 26, 2016, 10:12:07 AM »
zero. As I had written earlier I hired a guy Doug to build it and extend my deck.

exterior photo looks great! Do the curved tops of the walls remain all year? Or are those part of the succah?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #269 on: October 26, 2016, 11:04:08 AM »
exterior photo looks great! Do the curved tops of the walls remain all year? Or are those part of the succah?
They stay all year. They are there for aesthetic purposes only.

Note how some have a hook on them to hang plants/flowers.
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