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Wood
Pros: Cheap
         Easy to change shape or size as your needs for space change
         DIY - most people would be able to build it from scratch or make modifications (e.g. add windows)
         Can be converted to chazzon ish (replace metal screws with peg screws)
         Can integrate a schlock to the structure
Cons: Heavy, Can warp over time. (note: if you use enough fasteners and are also careful to assemble it balanced this can be minimized)
         Needs lots of storage space

Fiberglass
Pros: Easy Setup (on level ground)
         Length/width is reconfigurable (you just need to buy a few 2x4 beams if you change layout)
Cons: Expensive
         Greenhouse effect on hot days (need to budget for several open/shut windows)
         Connection threads can become bent even with proper storage (need to budget for the odd panel replacement here and there)
         Can Crack or Break

Canvas
Pros: Setup in minutes
Cons: Not accepted by all poskim
         Poor protection from cold Weather
         Wind Can be bothersome.


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Author Topic: Best Sukkah?  (Read 80771 times)

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #315 on: October 03, 2017, 11:07:41 PM »
That is a machlokes. PM"G and Bikurei Yaakov day okay but RAk"E and chazon ish machmir but that is when it is against the schach.
Against the secach? Here you are saying lovud from the dofen to the secach possul... to make the halacha of d"a 
Has to be lovud to the hechsher?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #316 on: October 03, 2017, 11:14:14 PM »
Against the secach? Here you are saying lovud from the dofen to the secach possul... to make the halacha of d"a 
Has to be lovud to the hechsher?
RAE says the opposite of you
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #317 on: October 03, 2017, 11:14:55 PM »
RAE says the opposite of you
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #318 on: October 03, 2017, 11:28:35 PM »
Where is this discussion about the walls you describe?

see piskei tshuvos siman 632 somewhere on seif aleph

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #319 on: October 03, 2017, 11:35:26 PM »
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Im so lost why is everyone getting all lumdis

It has 2 side walls and the back wall/ van seats canít be looked at as less than a doorway.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #320 on: October 04, 2017, 12:07:47 AM »
see piskei tshuvos siman 632 somewhere on seif aleph

Don't see anyhting there of relevance.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #321 on: October 04, 2017, 12:26:32 AM »
This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #322 on: October 04, 2017, 06:08:57 AM »
This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.
the mg"a brings down to say the din of pesel hayoitzei lechumra. So if the schsch pasul is sticking inide more than 3 tfachim and you have a Shiur of schach pass outside, it might pasul the whole sukkah
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #323 on: October 04, 2017, 06:47:12 AM »
This whole discussion is really not so relevant. There is no dofen akuma at the top at all. It goes less than 4 tfachim out of schach pasul and can likely even eat under it. The question I still need to review is because the roof continues past. Need to go over that aspect.
ok with a wall/seats not reaching the ground?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #324 on: October 04, 2017, 07:00:11 AM »
What about Ruach Metzuyah, won't those panels fall right over?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #325 on: October 04, 2017, 07:00:15 AM »
the mg"a brings down to say the din of pesel hayoitzei lechumra. So if the schsch pasul is sticking inide more than 3 tfachim and you have a Shiur of schach pass outside, it might pasul the whole sukkah
I don't think it is 3 in even according to RCN. Definitely not according to larger opinions.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #326 on: October 04, 2017, 07:01:10 AM »
ok with a wall/seats not reaching the ground?
They do reach the ground?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #327 on: October 04, 2017, 07:03:19 AM »
What about Ruach Metzuyah, won't those panels fall right over?
They are hinged to each other in 2 gams. Also clamped. The beams are notched and hold the doors.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #328 on: October 04, 2017, 07:21:15 AM »
They do reach the ground?
No that's a separate panel, not in line of or part of the seats

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #329 on: October 04, 2017, 08:01:08 AM »
Don't see anyhting there of relevance.

He brings machloket there in a case where you use a house wall as your third wall, with a roof protruding high above the sukka.
(dofen akuma and chavut rami together)

I thought that's what he meant here:

Well then that dofen is akum on both top and bottom.
The bottom is at the end of the vehicle, the top portion of the dofen is pulled in, and then it pops out again.

The poskim talk about the porch walls that have a lip (Israeli ones, bottom concrete wall, top bars), this case seems extreme.


Eta, there is definitely a space btwn seats and roof. So we do have the gud/akum combo. Fun