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Wood
Pros: Cheap
         Easy to change shape or size as your needs for space change
         DIY - most people would be able to build it from scratch or make modifications (e.g. add windows)
         Can be converted to chazzon ish (replace metal screws with peg screws)
         Can integrate a schlock to the structure
Cons: Heavy, Can warp over time. (note: if you use enough fasteners and are also careful to assemble it balanced this can be minimized)
         Needs lots of storage space

Fiberglass
Pros: Easy Setup (on level ground)
         Length/width is reconfigurable (you just need to buy a few 2x4 beams if you change layout)
Cons: Expensive
         Greenhouse effect on hot days (need to budget for several open/shut windows)
         Connection threads can become bent even with proper storage (need to budget for the odd panel replacement here and there)
         Can Crack or Break

Canvas
Pros: Setup in minutes
Cons: Not accepted by all poskim
         Poor protection from cold Weather
         Wind Can be bothersome.


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Author Topic: Best Sukkah?  (Read 166152 times)

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #240 on: October 16, 2016, 01:07:22 AM »
Poking holes for decarations didn't leave any holes? Or cause them to get bigger ?
They have special thing to use
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #241 on: October 16, 2016, 01:21:03 AM »
They have special thing to use
What kind of thing ?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #242 on: October 16, 2016, 01:44:38 AM »
What kind of thing ?
You can use a magnet or a tiny double sided push pin
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #243 on: October 21, 2016, 11:44:46 AM »
how fast would gusts need to be to put schach mats in jeopardy that arent currently tied down? any estimates? need to know if i should inconvenience myself to get mine tied down pre shabbos

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #244 on: October 21, 2016, 11:50:24 AM »
how fast would gusts need to be to put schach mats in jeopardy that arent currently tied down? any estimates? need to know if i should inconvenience myself to get mine tied down pre shabbos
I saw mats down yesterday & it wasn't very windy.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #245 on: October 21, 2016, 03:27:31 PM »

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #246 on: October 21, 2016, 03:42:25 PM »
how fast would gusts need to be to put schach mats in jeopardy that arent currently tied down? any estimates? need to know if i should inconvenience myself to get mine tied down pre shabbos
IME tying down might not work, and if the wind is a little strong, your mats can actually rip.

The best way to keep mats secure is to put evergreen schach around the perimeter of the mat. If you don't have that, try some tree limbs with several branches.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #247 on: October 21, 2016, 03:47:38 PM »
IME tying down might not work, and if the wind is a little strong, your mats can actually rip.

The best way to keep mats secure is to put evergreen schach around the perimeter of the mat. If you don't have that, try some tree limbs with several branches.
Wouldn't a few 2x4's keep it down ?

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #248 on: October 21, 2016, 03:51:00 PM »
Wouldn't a few 2x4's keep it down ?
I have a rather large sukkah, with several mats required to cover it. IME if the wind manages to get to an edge, the mat will act as a sail. That's a pretty powerful force and could sometimes overcome the 2x4s (I guess that is unless you put quite a few of them, not only one or two). I've tried many things with varying degrees of success. Ever since I decided to put evergreen around the perimeter I have never had any wind move my mats.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #249 on: October 22, 2016, 07:56:33 PM »
I have a rather large sukkah, with several mats required to cover it. IME if the wind manages to get to an edge, the mat will act as a sail. That's a pretty powerful force and could sometimes overcome the 2x4s (I guess that is unless you put quite a few of them, not only one or two). I've tried many things with varying degrees of success. Ever since I decided to put evergreen around the perimeter I have never had any wind move my mats.
How did the mats fare today ? :)

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #250 on: October 22, 2016, 08:13:46 PM »
How did the mats fare today ? :)
Didn't budge.

Though some tarp I put up to augment the דפנות did give in to the wind at one point. And despite the fact that that allowed the wind to get under the mats, they stayed put due to evergreen on top.
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #251 on: October 22, 2016, 08:17:41 PM »
Didn't budge.

Though some tarp I put up to augment the דפנות did give in to the wind at one point. And despite the fact that that allowed the wind to get under the mats, they stayed put due to evergreen on top.
I was surprised to not see anybody's schach blown off. Even unsecured mats. My shlock went up & my new expensive fluorescent is finished.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #252 on: October 22, 2016, 08:46:27 PM »
I was surprised to not see anybody's schach blown off. Even unsecured mats. My shlock went up & my new expensive fluorescent is finished.
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.

I saw two canvas succas today destroyed

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #253 on: October 22, 2016, 08:51:44 PM »
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.
Oh well. I was lied to

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #254 on: October 22, 2016, 09:01:19 PM »
How did the mats fare today ? :)
Didn't budge
Panels moved a bit but I pushed them back out tonight

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #255 on: October 22, 2016, 09:30:08 PM »
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.
Oh well. I was lied to
FYI these worked real well.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #256 on: October 23, 2016, 12:05:29 PM »
Yes
can you post a pic without the sukkah to get a a better idea?
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #257 on: October 23, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
I have a rather large sukkah, with several mats required to cover it. IME if the wind manages to get to an edge, the mat will act as a sail. That's a pretty powerful force and could sometimes overcome the 2x4s (I guess that is unless you put quite a few of them, not only one or two). I've tried many things with varying degrees of success. Ever since I decided to put evergreen around the perimeter I have never had any wind move my mats.
That's why you put the 2x4's along the edges. It's not so many pieces of wood that way, and it's more secure. Bonus points if you zip-tie the top and bottom 2x4's together, sandwiching the mats - that thing ain't budging an inch.

I used strips of lulav this year. My sukkah is on a raised deck (10+ feet off the ground) and at the back of my attached house (anyone who live in KGH knows that the shared driveway/alleys are like wind tunnels), but survived some pretty intense wind already.
The led fluorescents die after the first drop of rain. Old school cheap ones is the way to go.

I saw two canvas succas today destroyed
You probably mean LED tubes, or LED shoplights. Florescent and LED are different types of light sources. Either way, there's no real rule of thumb. You can find badly made florescent fixtures and well made LED's. You could be buying the wrong type for your usage as well.

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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #258 on: October 23, 2016, 01:25:14 PM »
can you post a pic without the sukkah to get a a better idea?
Do you mean of the deck without the succah? Sure
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Re: Best Sukkah?
« Reply #259 on: October 23, 2016, 01:26:11 PM »
You probably mean LED tubes, or LED shoplights. Florescent and LED are different types of light sources. Either way, there's no real rule of thumb. You can find badly made florescent fixtures and well made LED's. You could be buying the wrong type for your usage as well.
I got something from Sunlite. All the hardware stores were pushing that.